Gun Laws

886 views • 27 upvotes • Made by n6rsh 1 year ago in politics
47 Comments
ToneDef
4 ups, 1y, 1 reply
There is one and only one reason you care to disarm another person and that is if you intend to do them harm. If you don't intend in harming an armed person, it doesn't matter what weapons they have.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 3 replies
Are you seriously not aware of the inordinate efforts that have been put into restricting and policing drunk driving???
2ATom
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
You don't understand economics!
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y
Oh. Well since you put it like that
2ATom
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Inordinate? You believe too much is being done to determine and punish drunk drivers?
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
Of course there have been incidents where anti-drunk driving laws have gone too far! That's normal. There have been incidents where regulating milk safety has gone too far. That doesn't invalidate the fact that over 50 years of campaigning against drunk driving with legislative support, the death rates due to drunk driving have slashed. Lives have been saved simply because we had that conversation about what works and what doesn't, because a lot of it DID work.
ToneDef
1 up, 1y, 2 replies
it seems like the solution is stiff punishment and promotion of operation safety.
2ATom
0 ups, 1y
We also need to take away the qualified immunity from auto manufacturers when someone uses their product illegally.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
And we stopped giving the right to drive a car to literally anybody. Rather obvious missing item on your list.
2ATom
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Driving is a privilege, not a right.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y
Talk to an actual lawyer sometime.
2ATom
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
But we haven't made cars so expensive that drunks cannot afford to drive.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
You don't think the drunk driving fines are expensive enough? You never met someone who was going through a fortune in cab fares because they lost their license to even HAVE a car?
2ATom
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
So, you believe that people that misuse alcohol and cars together should pay a stiff penalty for their own crimes. Not everyone that that uses them responsibly.



You also believe that everyone that uses firearms responsibly should be denied thar right because criminals use them illegally.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
If you say so. You haven't actually asked me what I believe but you obviously know me better than I do so ok.



But we do make everyone including responsible car drivers prove they're not drinking and driving so that we can take the cars away from people that do though. So you're still wrong.
2ATom
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Actually SCOTUS has ruled that you cannot make everyone prove they are sober while driving.



Probable cause and innocent until proven guilty and all that faldaral. 



You gave your opinion of firearms ownership in your flawed economic rant about guns.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
And, tellingly, you never actually described what the flaw was. You just copy and pasted a list of irrelevant gun facts from your uncle's weekly chain emails.
2ATom
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
Your flaw is that Americans have the right to keep and bear arms.



Your plan would make them unattainable by people that need them.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
Are you under the impression that the Second Ammendement requires that guns be handed out for free? Because I don't think ANY court has interpreted that guns having a price tag on them requiring exchange of some kind of money would be ruled as an infringement.
2ATom
1 up, 1y
You are patently anti gun so just stop the 💩.
merryprankster
3 ups, 1y
They can’t. The goal isn’t to get the guns out of the criminals hands. The goal is to get them out of YOUR hands.
Mr.Gopnik9000
2 ups, 1y
Amen.
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1 up, 1y, 3 replies
merryprankster
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
What a load of hogwash.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
Never took econ, I take it?
merryprankster
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
This issue has zero to do with economics.

So, yeah… a load of hogwash
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
So, "explain how this happens but without using economics"?



That's a moving goalpost.
merryprankster
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
Easy…the left coddles criminals and punish the god guys. 

What’s with quotation marks?
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 2 replies
Looks like you've lost track of what we were talking about again.



You know the drill: the thread is up for you to reread whenever you feel like rejoining the conversation at hand.
merryprankster
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
Looks like struck a nerve. The subject at hand is firearms in the hands of criminals. Do try to stay on topic, won’t you? There’s a good lad.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 3 replies
Take your time. Ask your grandkids for help if you're struggling to operate your device.
merryprankster
2 ups, 1y
You are not a smart person.
merryprankster
2 ups, 1y
You are not a smart person.

I already said.
merryprankster
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
EXACTLY!!!!!!

HOW DO YOU EXPECT CRIMINALS TO OBEY ANY LAWS?????
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y
Read the thread again. I already said.
2ATom
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
The meme actually says. Explain how new laws will make us safer?
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y, 2 replies
Which I did. First thing I did.
2ATom
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Your explanation is totally flawed.



Just an anti gun wet dream.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y
I wasn't expecting you to like it. But the OP asked and that was the answer.
merryprankster
1 up, 1y
Well that’s a dumb AND wrong answer.
Ma_Deuce
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
"What happens to the demand curve when the price goes up? Demand goes down. And suddenly criminals don't want guns anymore."



Nope, thesis, you're wrong (again...) 



When demand goes down, the prices go down. It's a cycle.



Besides, do you really think criminal demand for illegal firearms is impacted in any meaningful way by the price of the illegal firearm?



If you do, I have some prime Florida bottom land you may be interested in purchasing.
[deleted]
0 ups, 1y
Seriously, take a basic econ class. The Demand Curve is the first thing you learn. When prices go up, demand goes down - opposite of the supply curve. 



Would you buy a cookie for $16,000? No? Exactly. That's the Demand Curve.
2ATom
2 ups, 1y, 2 replies
So, let's make them really cheap so poor people can defend themselves from criminals.
Austrogressive
1 up, 1y
The only way besides tax cuts to make guns cheaper is government intervention. And tax cuts would mean less regulations
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1 up, 1y, 1 reply
2ATom
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
1 - Eleven teens die each day because of texting while driving. Maybe it's time to raise the age of Smart Phone ownership to 21.



2 - If gun control laws actually worked, Chicago would be Mayberry, USA.



3 - The Second Amendment makes more women equal than the entire feminist movement.



4 - Legal gun owners have 300 million guns and probably a trillion rounds of ammo. Seriously, folks, if we were the problem, you'd know it.



5 - When JFK was killed, nobody blamed the rifle.



6 - The NRA (National Rifle Association) murders 0 people and receives ($$$$ 0) nothing in government funds. Planned Parenthood kills 350,000 babies every year and receives $500,000,000 in tax dollars annually.



7 - I have no problem with vigorous background checks when it comes to firearms. While we're at it, let's do the same when it comes to immigration, voter I.D., and candidates running for office.



8 - Folks keep talking about another Civil War. One side knows how to shoot and probably has a trillion rounds. The other side has crying closets and is confused about which bathroom to use. Now tell me, how do you think that would end?
Ma_Deuce
2 ups, 1y
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