Okay...

1. Zelensky's Jewish. How THE F**K can Nazi's flourish under a Jewish President?

2. A known Russian Neo-Nazi group called the Wagner Group is participating in the invasion of Ukraine, which blows Putin's claim that they're denazifying the country right out of the water.

Also: Do you know how many ex-KGB are in that country with a death sentence ordered by Putin?

When NATO and the CIA can admit that they made Ukraine into another East-Germany, then we can talk some more. Until then... f**k Ukraine... I hope Putin takes it all and reestablished himself as Tzar over the former Soviet Union.

Go volunteer to fight for their lives

He and others are very brave with other peoples lives and they will fight to the last Ukranian.

Lol do you have any idea of how many east German secret police make up that government???

Big difference between hissidic jews and Russian orthodox jews for one.

For two I'll research the Wagner group

You ever looked at who the Nazis financial benefactors were and what conditions were set by them for the war loan?

You responded 6 times to one comment, that’s a fat L

Ok....

Plus Ukraine is not nazis

Above Battalion's logo resembles a black "wolfsangel", a symbol that was used by some Nazi units and is seen by critics as neo-Nazi. The Azov say the logo represents the letters N and I of "national idea" and deny it is neo-Nazi.

In 2015, a spokesman for the Azov brigade told USA Today that 10% to 20% of the group’s members are Nazis. To which today, some say the ultra-nationalist, neo-Nazi leanings of the Azov regiment have become less prevalent.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/last-defenders-mariupol-what-is-ukraines-azov-regiment-2022-05-17/
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/the-facts-on-de-nazifying-ukraine/

If I every time I heard conspiracy theorists use the “looks like” theorem, I’d be rich

Disgusting isn't it. But its been happening as early as the early 20th century...

News Corp began its corporate life in 1922 as News Limited. It was a company that was secretly established by a mining company owned by the most powerful industrialists of the day, and it was created for the express purpose of disseminating “propaganda”.

https://theconversation.com/the-secret-history-of-news-corp-a-media-empire-built-on-spreading-propaganda-116992

Ukraine has a long history fighting Russia and tens of thousands fought with Nazi Germany. Several thousand joined the SS. Failing to Learn history condemns you to repeat it.

During WWII, Ukrainian nationalists saw the Nazis as liberators from Soviet oppression. Now, Russia is using that chapter to paint Ukraine as a Nazi nation.

Great Famine was a human-made famine. It was the direct result of Soviet policies aimed at punishing Ukrainian farmers who fought Soviet mandates to collectivise.

From the Ukrainian side of the debate, the country’s wartime history is more complex. Are the nationalists “bad guys” because they participated in the Holocaust, Shevel asks, or “good guys” because they fought for independence?

Almost all of these experts begin their accounts with the fall of the Russian Empire, when tens of thousands of Ukrainians fought against the Bolshevik Red Army to establish the Ukrainian People’s Republic. Ukrainians continued to fight for independence until 1922

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-20th-century-history-behind-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-180979672/

So the point is many Ukrainians had sympathies towards the Nazis and it isn’t wrong to say some of them still
Hold those Nazi sympathies. The causes of that run even further back to the Ukranian Cossack hetman Khmelnitsky that “sold out” his country and forever bonded it to Russia. The Russian Civil war and the Holodomor were catastrophes initiated by the bolshevik Russians.

so did all of the the other soviet states, estonians cheered for the arival of the nazis (but heres the important part) until they realized the nazis wouldnt make them independent, you would be hard pressed to find aomebody saying the baltic states are nazis besides russian nationalists

The point is some people in Ukraine had and have Nazi sympathies like some of the Azov Battalion. Denying it is denying realty.

Lots of them are and it goes back to WW2. That’s a fact, not your feelings.

That’s not even true

Sorry about your feelings but tens of thousands of Ukranians fought with Nazis against Russia, and thousands of them joined the SS. That’s history.

During WWII, Ukrainian nationalists saw the Nazis as liberators from Soviet oppression. Now, Russia is using that chapter to paint Ukraine as a Nazi nation.

Great Famine was a human-made famine. It was the direct result of Soviet policies aimed at punishing Ukrainian farmers who fought Soviet mandates to collectivise.

From the Ukrainian side of the debate, the country’s wartime history is more complex. Are the nationalists “bad guys” because they participated in the Holocaust, Shevel asks, or “good guys” because they fought for independence?

Almost all of these experts begin their accounts with the fall of the Russian Empire, when tens of thousands of Ukrainians fought against the Bolshevik Red Army to establish the Ukrainian People’s Republic. Ukrainians continued to fight for independence until 1922

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-20th-century-history-behind-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-180979672/

“Every group has bad apples, some more than others“

That’s why I never said all Ukranians are Nazis, but you also can’t say that no Ukranians have Nazi sympathies. Some do, including many of the Azov Battalion, or what’s left of them. The ironic hypocrisy of lefties defending actual Nazis sympathizers while accusing Americans who disagree with them of being Nazis is hilarious and obviously ridiculous.

Above Battalion's logo resembles a black "wolfsangel", a symbol that was used by some Nazi units and is seen by critics as neo-Nazi. The Azov say the logo represents the letters N and I of "national idea" and deny it is neo-Nazi.

In 2015, a spokesman for the Azov brigade told USA Today that 10% to 20% of the group’s members are Nazis. To which today, some say the ultra-nationalist, neo-Nazi leanings of the Azov regiment have become less prevalent.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/last-defenders-mariupol-what-is-ukraines-azov-regiment-2022-05-17/
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/the-facts-on-de-nazifying-ukraine/

“Do you have any proof of what you said?”

Do you? What I said is history and widely accepted a simple search proves it.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-in-ukraine-attend-marches-celebrating-nazi-ss-soldiers/

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Ukrainian)

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1468-229X.12129

The Kyiv march by about 300 people was an import from the western city of Lviv, which for several years has hosted such events. A day earlier, hundreds attended a larger Embroidery March there.

Only 300 people marched for the Nazis, that's a minority.

“Only 300 people marched for the Nazis, that's a minority.

Haha, ya but the 14h Ukranian army division of the Waffen SS is a lot more. You want to use Selective truth to defend the lefts narrative. If 300 are marching in public it proves that some Ukranians hold Nazi sympathies to this day. The argument wasn’t that all Ukranians are Nazis. Only that some have Nazi sympathies. That is true and pretending it’s not is dishonest.

300 is hardly anything, but it doesn't mean you should say that all Ukrainians are "Nazis". Plus this isn't the only situation Conservatives assume that all people in a group are this because of a minority of the group being bad.

Every group has bad apples, some more than others.

Ukrainian may not be a Nazi nation but it had thousands join the SS. That’s pretty much Nazi. That is different than the tens of thousands who fought with the Germans. So denying that segments of the Ukranian armed forces are Nazi sympathizers is more true than not. The hypocrisy comes from the ability to try and overlook or defend their nazism as it serves the narrative. You either hate Nazis or you don’t regardless of if they are in Ukraine or the USA or anywhere else.

Proof?

“Proof?”

Of what?

Do you have any proof of what you said?

Ironic

I'm waiting for some old Stasi officers and KGB defectors to be captured which will make everyone feel stupid. Lots of interesting stuff happened in Ukraine when the Berlin Wall fell. Even more interesting stuff happened during the collapse of the Soviet Union.

And yes, I'm aware Stasi we're "communist" but not all were. They may have had the patch but many supported old guard fascism.

I'm willing to bet money that a large portion of zelenskys suit and tie fascists are ex-stasi.

never heard that theory yet

Haha prove the Wagner is a Neo Nazi group. There isn’t a shred of evidence that supports that. They are Russian mercenaries which makes them more communists than Nazis. Oh right, same thing!

Here ya go: https://romea.cz/en/world/the-times-putin-has-sent-mercenaries-to-kyiv-led-by-an-admirer-of-the-nazis-to-murder-zelenskyy-and-the-klitschko-brothers

It says Admirer. Like Justin Trudeau “admires” Xi Jinping? Doesn’t make his group a Nazi group, but it isn’t a stretch to believe that totalitarians admire other pure totalitarians. Mao, Stalin and Hitler were a lot closer in ideology a mass murdered millions.

So why should Russia get to take it over?

To which Russia is fascist since Putin took over as president

While you're researching that, also look up a documentary called Donbass: That's Why I'm Here

Because it was originally their land.. also, that is the rule of war regarding expansionism. You do enough research and you'll see it was originally their land.

There was a Kyiv long before there was ever a Moscow.

Just like there was a Constantinople before an Instanbul they didn't have a cold war tho... lol

Yeah, the invasions of Mehmet II wouldn't stand up to international law. Russia is being held to a higher standard than the medieval Ottomans. lol.

Just admit it has nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia, and everything to do with NATO.

You want me to admit that Russia's unilateral full scale invasion that they alone can stop at any time has nothing to do with Russia?

Do I understand your question correctly?

Yes, under the current conditions. Russias using it to their advantage however. As I said they want to rebuild the former Soviet Union.

Kinda makes me wonder how after Brexit tho...🤔🤔🤔

Well, they can't. Those Soviets are their own independent country now.

And a bunch of *redacted* suckers that play both sides with their money.

I for one think it's disgusting how they pander suffrage for a living...

It was a Viking City ruled by a tribe called the Rus. Guess we’re the name Russia comes from

Fact check everything that I said antithesis and maybe you'll wake up...

The thing is that EVEN IF THE THINGS YOU'RE SAYING WERE TRUE (they aren't) it still isn't a valid casus belli by international law. You don't see the British invading the east coast of the United States because THAT used to belong to them, do you?

Dood that's a shyt example and you know it.

You have a lot of cold war research to do.. not going to pander to your stupidity further.

They established those NATO bases in Ukraine as a nuclear strategy which was milked for at least two decades by people who should've been killed publicly from both sides.

The fact that people would ignore how this became a safe haven for scumbags irks me even further. Like maybe I should raise an army of gangsters, invade Ukraine and start pulling peoples fingernails from their hands while beating them to death in public for not supporting my "just" cause.

You sound stupid.

There are NATO bases in the east coast of the United States as a nuclear stretegy milked for over two decades, AND it used to belong to Britain. So why is that different? Why don't we see Britain invading the US to get it back?

Because they know we will kill them if they ever tried and under EU ownership, they'd rather just control us financially through London.

It DID kill Russia to try! It's absolutely crushed their military AND economy. So, really, seriously, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? Why isn't Britain allowed to go "ah screw it" and launch an invasion of the east coast that they won't even win?

But Russia is winning Ukraine, which is why they're doing it. In thr end the US needs to focus more at Alaska and Taiwan over anything else. I hope you see the logic of what I'm saying.

hahahahahahahahaha no they're not

Russia is winning Ukraine about as well as we won Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Iraq again, Vietnam, Korea….

“Dood that's a shyt example and you know it.”

It really isn’t. Not by the logic you’ve previously expressed.

Go volunteer to fight for their lives.

You first.

Sorry to say, not everyone is a fighter.

Not everyone gets to lay their life down the same way. There is more to war than just fighting it hand to hand, gun to gun, tank to tank on the field of battle. Some men entertain to keep morale. Some men cook to keep the army energized. Then there are some men who tell stories for the people back home, or elsewhere, to make them want to stop fighting. To stop defending themselves. Or to stop invading. These men will tell the truth, they’ll lie, they’ll say anything.

It is very clear you feel very strongly about this war, but I’m sorry to tell you, nor everyone fights a war the same way.

Some just spread propaganda.

Like you.

If I had it my way, people who spread propaganda would be on the front lines.

Naked and no weapons.

That is how you would best serve Putin.

Cannonfodder.

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, so why is it Israel and controlled by non-Palestinians?

Also both people funding the Ukraine side as well as Nazi Germany are also the same people who annexed Israel through Britain on a war loan with a request that Hitler would exterminate Russian Orthodox Jews. Heeey.. them and Catholics are being exterminated in Ukraine by the same kinds of people.. HOW IRONIC IS THAT?