Deepen Diversity is now in the hands of the Congress

I support this.

So aye?

Yeah.

Yea

I'm in the process of trying to fix up section 7 because Modda has pointed out that celebrating a minority group no matter what is dehumanising

But either way, you're vote will still count

As a congresswoman, I vote aye

I thought that was the Senate vote already.

Article 6: Senate
Section 2: The Senate shall propose and vote on rules for the stream. A simple majority will pass normal bills, and the bill is sent to Congress. If it passes Congress, the President will either enact it, or veto it. If the bill is vetoed, then a 2/3 supermajority joint session of Congress and the Senate will override the veto and the veto becomes law.
Section 3: A 2/3 supermajority is required separately in both Congress and the Senate and a Presidential enactment for constitutional amendments.

I made the bill as a senator

I know, but the meme says congress already passed it. I thought that was the senate vote.

Either way, since you're a congressperson, you can vote for this amendment

"But at the end of the day, if you celebrate them as a race, that's pretty much dehumanising them."

Which is exactly what this bill is doing to everyone, section 7 particularly highlighting this.

"Section 7: You may make a meme festival at least once a year celebrating a minority group. These minority groups include native people (globally), migrants, emerging voices (queer and disabled), and certain religious groups i.e, muslims and jews. You may celebrate these groups as many times as you want through meme festivals or meme contests or anyway. White people can be celebrated too as long it is to celebrate them as a part of the minority group, providing you don’t dehumanise them."

Instead of patronizing people and giving select groups "Pet of the Month" treatment and celebrations, how about skipping the labels and treating people as PEOPLE. No pat on the heads, no "you've had it too good for too long so go sit in the corner over there," no separation "we vs them," no "today is your special day, tomorrow will be someone else's"......... just treat people like people.

Trying to prevent certain individual who keep trying to push their racist agenda and utilize this stream for their racist shenagins is one thing, but attempting to counter it by providing it fodder is another. Defining people as an 'other' and celebating their sheer amazingness while trying to minimize one because a larger proportion (not all, mind you) of them had it pretty decent is kind of missing its own point. This is a case of good intentions, wrong response.

"Which is exactly what this bill is doing to everyone, section 7 particularly highlighting this."

But it really depends on how you celebrate the people. If you don't see them as a person, then it's dehumanisation.

"Section 7: You may make a meme festival at least once a year celebrating a minority group. These minority groups include native people (globally), migrants, emerging voices (queer and disabled), and certain religious groups i.e, muslims and jews. You may celebrate these groups as many times as you want through meme festivals or meme contests or anyway. White people can be celebrated too as long it is to celebrate them as a part of the minority group, providing you don’t dehumanise them."

"Instead of patronizing people and giving select groups "Pet of the Month" treatment and celebrations, how about skipping the labels and treating people as PEOPLE. No pat on the heads, no "you've had it too good for too long so go sit in the corner over there," no separation "we vs them," no "today is your special day, tomorrow will be someone else's"......... just treat people like people."

I never suggested we should do "Pet of the Month" treatment, I was thinking like meme festivals like celebrating minority groups as people and anti-discrimination memes. I think you may have been confused but it just depends on who makes the festivals, plus its all individual choices.

"Trying to prevent certain individual who keep trying to push their racist agenda and utilize this stream for their racist shenagins is one thing, but attempting to counter it by providing it fodder is another. Defining people as an 'other' and celebating their sheer amazingness while trying to minimize one because a larger proportion (not all, mind you) of them had it pretty decent is kind of missing its own point. This is a case of good intentions, wrong response."

I agree. People shouldn't really be seen as an "other".

I never suggested we should do "Pet of the Month" treatment, I was thinking like meme festivals like celebrating minority groups as people and anti-discrimination memes."

Which IS "Pet of the Month" treatment. Celebrating 'minority' groups as people is patronizing, having to show that they are people caters to discriminatory attitudes and practices. Labeling people is segregation, dehumanisation. It is marking them as 'other'

"I don't want to tell you what you should do with it, it's up to you"

I don't believe we should have a section of a bill ironically dehumanise a minority group when its supposed to fight against it.

It's just like the religious discrimination bill the Morrison Govt made back like last year. It was one step forward but many steps backwards with the LGBTQ+ community, as the bill would damage the community due to allowance of bigotry from extremist religious views, not necessarily the mainstream views of the religion

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/defeated-morrison-shelves-religious-freedoms-until-after-the-election-20220210-p59ves

So maybe I can edit the amendment again, how should we do that?

I'm not sure.
I pointed out problems with it I saw. That is all.

So I guess just remove section 7?

I don't want to tell you what you should do with it, it's up to you

Ohhh, good pick up.

I made a mistake, I was meant to say that the bill has gone to Congress and the Senate had 2 votes for the amendment to none

Ah ok. Completely understandable.

- Constitutional Amendment -

See: imgflip.com/i/7bo5bi

Deepen Diversity Amendment.

Section 1: Hate speech based bills such as White Supremacy, banning a certain minority group from the stream will not be tolerated and will need to be blocked by the President or otherwise the bill must be aborted.

Section 2: Bills with the belief that white people constitute a superior race with dominance of society are considered White Supremacy based bills.

Section 3: To abort the bill, you must either announce that you’re aborting the bill or you delete the bill. No opponent should archive the hate speech based bills unless permitted by the congressperson or senator.

Section 4: The President must block the hate speech based bill by automatically vetoing the bill.

Section 5: Hate speech bills must not be able to have the veto overturned by a congressperson nor senator; as this will encourage violations of TOS.

Section 6: If bill is not vetoed by the President or aborted by the congressperson/senator, an impeachment may be issued to whoever is at fault.

Section 7: You may make a meme festival at least once a year celebrating a minority group. These minority groups include native people (globally), migrants, emerging voices (queer and disabled), and certain religious groups i.e, muslims and jews. You may celebrate these groups as many times as you want through meme festivals or meme contests or anyway. White people can be celebrated too as long it is to celebrate them as a part of the minority group, providing you don’t dehumanise them.

for section 7, can I make a meme festival celebrating white people?

White people who are in a certain minority group. Not because they're white but don't forget you have to make the celebration of where the white people are in diverse of ethnicity.

e.g. If you're celebrating LGBTQ pride, you've gotta include a white person, an African-American, a hispanic person, maybe an Asian, anyone with any ethnicity but White People won't be celebrated because they're white (that's called White Supremacy)

white people make up like 13% of the global population, that's a minority right?

Doesn't matter about the world population, that's not relevant. Yes Imgflip is a worldwide web but most of its users are American, so we like to use America's data to make things more accurate.

so America is the only country that matters?

No, every country matters but its more accurate to look at the stats from Western Countries because we live by the Western Countries.

This is also the same thing with comparing America's gun deaths to European Countries instead of comparing them to Latin American countries because it's called bias

ok, but why is it good to celebrate people in minorities, but wrong to celebrate white people?

But... white people are celebrated almost all the time in America.

There are more white people in film than people of color, your history celebrates mostly the achievements of white people, heck even in the celebration of pride month or women's day, white people are being celebrated as well..

Also, the bill isn't just abt people of color, it's also about people with disabilities, LGBTQ+ people, Muslim, and Jewish people. You do know that there are also white people who are in some of these minorities, right?

“But... white people are celebrated almost all the time in America.”

I agree, we see too much media people that are White. Just look at Channel 9 and Channel 7 in Australia, they lack diversity.

“There are more white people in film than people of color, your history celebrates mostly the achievements of white people, heck even in the celebration of pride month or women's day, white people are being celebrated as well..”

I agree, I just mentioned that on another comment, and even Octavia_Melody told me this when I was a Conservatard.

“Also, the bill isn't just abt people of color, it's also about people with disabilities, LGBTQ+ people, Muslim, and Jewish people.”

Very true.

“You do know that there are also white people who are in some of these minorities, right?”

Very true. From the amount of queer people I have seen in my area, not applying to America but I have seen queer people that are white

the United States was settled and built primarily by white people, so of course their achievements are going to show up more than those of other races. It's not that, in the context of the US and its history, there are an equal number of people of all races accomplishing things. Like, take somewhere like China or Japan. You'd expect their history to be mainly focused on Chinese or Japanese people.
I'm honestly not in favor of celebrating anyone based solely on their race. I think you should just let history be history, and if the guys white, great, and if he's black, great, but you should celebrate him or her because of their achievements, not skin color.

White people have already been celebrated enough times, but they can be celebrated because they might be in another minority group.

90% of Jews are white you know, and we can still celebrate Jews, right?

It's good to celebrate minority voices to give them a voice, and then there is equality. I believe in equality and rights.

the United States was settled and built primarily by white people, so of course their achievements are going to show up more than those of other races. It's not that, in the context of the US and its history, there are an equal number of people of all races accomplishing things. Like, take somewhere like China or Japan. You'd expect their history to be mainly focused on Chinese or Japanese people.
I'm honestly not in favor of celebrating anyone based solely on their race. I think you should just let history be history, and if the guys white, great, and if he's black, great, but you should celebrate him or her because of their achievements, not skin color.

"the United States was settled and built primarily by white people, so of course their achievements are going to show up more than those of other races."

Yeah but the colonisers were oppressive. Plus you should look further back to the native people of America.

"It's not that, in the context of the US and its history, there are an equal number of people of all races accomplishing things. Like, take somewhere like China or Japan. You'd expect their history to be mainly focused on Chinese or Japanese people."

Yeah but it's not relevant for American Imgflippers; this is site is dominated by Americans so American history counts. Notice how I didn't use Australia's data, because Australia's data is not relevant to imgflip unless otherwise.

"I'm honestly not in favor of celebrating anyone based solely on their race."

You don't have to celebrate a race based on a race, and that means by your logic that you won't be a fan of celebrating white culture.

"I think you should just let history be history, and if the guys white, great, and if he's black, great, but you should celebrate him or her because of their achievements, not skin color."

But at the end of the day, if you celebrate them as a race, that's pretty much dehumanising them.

American school history has been misinformation and it’s not even new news. And it’s not the worst of the worst, btw. Columbia University, (which is in America), was home to many Marxist teachers very early on and it began turning people from their faith into avid Marxists. Bella Dodd was one of them, and when she finally left Marxism, she said that a leader of the secret Marxist organization in America (the CPUSA - Communist Party of the USA [which had its own secret police and people that answered to Stalin as their leader and NOT the current US president]), confided in her that they couldn’t take America yet because the people wouldn’t fall for it. But they said that “in due time, we’ll be able to take America under the name of progressive liberalism. But take America we will.”

And even Columbia isn’t the worst in the world. The University of Paris has sent several people back to their homes and caused multiple revolutions. Lenin went to Paris before starting the Bolshevik Revolution. Vietnam was a victim of a former Paris student. And quite a few other countries shared the same fate.

Education plays a huge part in what people believe and what kind of people they’ll grow up to be. And if one is an educator it is their responsibility to teach them to be a decent contribution to society instead of an angry person, a mindless addict or a selfish power-hungry manipulator.

as long as they’re not trying to proselytize islam, i’m fine with it.

Well, what would be enough? Personally I think they should take stories from asian and black culture and stop pasting asians and blacks into european fairy tales and then calling us racist for not liking it. Like we’ll be completely fine if you do it with their culture. I actually find some asian folklore quite fascinating. Make movies on it.

I wanted more women protagonists before, and thought the same thing back then. But what’s going on today is not what I had envisioned or wanted. I don’t want people’s dirty attitudes plastered all over the screen. I come to entertainment to be entertained, not complained to. Save all that BS for CNN… they do quite a good job at the whole whining thing.

I agree that both would be good. I’m just saying based on past history it’s a massive red flag. There really haven’t been many minority protagonists recently that are even worth rooting for. Before 2020? The rare time it happened, it was probably much better than what happens now. I actually like Falcon in the MCU - he was introduced in 2014 before all this black-titude stuff got popular, and he was a happy guy that has a ton of respect for others and was a very likable character, and he stayed that way through much of F&tWS (didn’t like his end speech but still). I also like the character Black Panther (hated the movie but liked him specifically) because he is another decent human being. It’s happened before, but nowadays it’s just so rare.

I was referring to people needing ppl to look like them to look up to them.

And like I said, Iron Man was more popular than Captain America and I preferred Captain America.

This is true, and this means more people across the world that don’t agree with their ideals are getting turned off by their BS.

what “reliable sources” are you talking about exactly? and are they responding to the things I’m addressing? Are they addressing real arguments? Or are they denying stuff because they don’t want the public to sway away from an agenda they want to push?

And this isn’t exactly an accurate spin on history there in Australia either. First off, when someone voyaged to a new country, unfamiliar diseases spread both ways, not just one. Second, these people, like the natives did not have this mindset of no war either.

How not? If whites have it so easy then blacks and asians being racist back and there being nothing wrong with it because of how whites treated them, is a racist idea. Many anti-racist ideas are - very racist.

That was my point. It’s a reply to BLM. Whether it was racist is another point (I’d argue both WLM and BLM are both extremely racist).

Okay, I can respect that. I am getting pretty busy too now tbh

You said everyone was racist 50 years ago- was I supposed to know this was an exaggeration? Some people legit believe that and argue it. And btw that paragraph disproves a lot of woke narratives, not just race stuff.

Do you know that public school was literally created with the purpose of indoctrinating the youth? This was planned hundreds of years ago. We only are seeing how ridiculous it can get today, but it was all in the works a while ago. Progressives pushed patriotism to get people’s attention off of God, and once conservatives got on board they flipped the switch and started hating America so that instead of the discussion being about God, it’s now on whether America was good or not. Now, their arguments against America are BS, so I will argue against them, but this was what they wanted. They did the same thing with the LGBTQ movement. They weren’t for them until very recently, when they flipped the switch and made everyone else out to be evil people. When these people themselves thought of homosexuals as disgusting just 30 years ago. They don’t give a rip about the LGBTQ community, they don’t give a rip about America, minorities, whatever. They just want dupes. In the words of John D Rockefeller: “I don’t want a nation of thinkers; I want a nation of workers.” Do you know a founding father of modern education, named John Dewey, was an avid Marxist? Do you know that the books that he put in OUR school system, were so valued by Stalin himself, that he spent money the country didn’t have to make the Dewey school method mandatory for every school in the USSR? The USSR, a country that would NEVER allow another opinion in the school system, was endorsing and buying America’s school books in bulk. Do you think it’s an accident we’re taught that FDR (one of Stalin’s biggest dupes [who had a right hand man who was Stalin’s spy, and who refused to believe anything bad about Stalin despite warnings from USSR escapees], and who also died suspiciously not long after he finally found out Stalin wasn’t his best friend), was one of the best presidents in US History?

Some people do because people have engineered that and taught them to need it. If you think about things logically, race has the value of an ant in the grand scheme of things. Imagine if you were 6’5” and so you could only relate to people who were 6’5” because of it. It sounds stupid, but this whole race thing sounds stupid to many people.

No, it has nothing to do with pop culture. Captain America has many valuable morals I agree with. I wouldn’t care if someone like Riri was far more popular (and someone like her would get popular in today’s culture); it would just make me despair that people were loco. And tbh I wasn’t the biggest Iron Man fan because I thought he was a jerk and a playboy and I didn’t agree with his idea of morality. (At the end of the day, they really grew his character to close out his journey, and I really respect that and thus respect the character more. They will never do that with minority protagonist jerks because they think being a jerk is the right thing to do. Nobody argued Iron Man was right to be a playboy [well maybe some did but they have their own problems]). But I miss the days where Iron Man was the idea of a messed up superhero in the MCU. And Iron Man was more liked than Captain America. RDJ made $50M a movie.

So by your definition, what’s going on in Hollywood determines what is being celebrated in culture? You should understand that Hollywood is very different from American culture. It’s always been ahead in wokeism and has even been highly populated by scientologists and Marxists. It does not reflect American culture, and it shows because the moment they started trying to push their politics in every form of entertainment, they turned off half the country. The country is not nearly as one-sided as you may think if you look at life through Hollywood. And many working in Hollywood are straight degenerates and are far richer than the average American.

You keep saying “No it doesn’t” but you ain’t giving any reasoning why. I’ve mentioned reasons why the culture despises whites right now (revenge factor included).

"Some people do because people have engineered that and taught them to need it. If you think about things logically, race has the value of an ant in the grand scheme of things. Imagine if you were 6’5” and so you could only relate to people who were 6’5” because of it. It sounds stupid, but this whole race thing sounds stupid to many people."

Some people do what?

"No, it has nothing to do with pop culture. Captain America has many valuable morals I agree with. I wouldn’t care if someone like Riri was far more popular (and someone like her would get popular in today’s culture); it would just make me despair that people were loco. And tbh I wasn’t the biggest Iron Man fan because I thought he was a jerk and a playboy and I didn’t agree with his idea of morality. (At the end of the day, they really grew his character to close out his journey, and I really respect that and thus respect the character more. They will never do that with minority protagonist jerks because they think being a jerk is the right thing to do. Nobody argued Iron Man was right to be a playboy [well maybe some did but they have their own problems]). But I miss the days where Iron Man was the idea of a messed up superhero in the MCU. And Iron Man was more liked than Captain America. RDJ made $50M a movie."

Pop Culture meaning like the popularity.

"So by your definition, what’s going on in Hollywood determines what is being celebrated in culture? You should understand that Hollywood is very different from American culture. It’s always been ahead in wokeism and has even been highly populated by scientologists and Marxists. It does not reflect American culture, and it shows because the moment they started trying to push their politics in every form of entertainment, they turned off half the country. The country is not nearly as one-sided as you may think if you look at life through Hollywood. And many working in Hollywood are straight degenerates and are far richer than the average American."

You know Hollywood films aren't just filmed and made for America, it is filmed for all the western countries, like Australia.

"You keep saying “No it doesn’t” but you ain’t giving any reasoning why. I’ve mentioned reasons why the culture despises whites right now (revenge factor included)."

You don't need a reason, you need to do some research on reliable sources and they'll say the same thing as me.

As a Christian I’m not really going to argue for the Muslim point, but I do believe it’s highly dangerous because of the end time prophesies and how Islam plays a factor in the end times.

Actually I have to disagree on that. A lot of modern entertainment (post 2020 stuff) has a lot of diversity for the sake of it and it really shows. Plus their diverse characters are straight up rude and justify it with what other people have done throughout history, and we are supposed to think of them as heroes. Like apparently Hollywood thinks the antithesis to toxic masculinity is to make all female protagonists a-holes, aka toxic femininity. And my question is, who the frick is supposed to take a look at these characters and think “Yeah that’s what I want to be when I grow up”? In the past several months we’ve had She-Hulk, Rings of Power, Willow, and the abomination called Velma, all with insufferable main female protagonists. Velma went for all the diversity hires in the world (and the main character is queer) and it has a 6% rotten tomatoes rating. That’s because it appealed to absolutely no one besides the folks in the writing room. Diversity post 2020 has only been an indication that protagonists ain’t gonna be good people. As I said, Riri Williams is a total entitled racist, and they put her in Black Panther bc she’s black, even though she has nothing to do with Wakanda (sounds pretty racist to me). And we’re supposed to root for these characters. Guy-ladriel in Rings of Power and She-Hulk were terrible people who were always right because woman. Kit in Willow was a different level of narcissistic (and she was queer too). None of these attributes make a character likable, it’s their values and morals and basic human desire to be a decent human being (which these writers think is a bad thing for some reason). It almost makes me cringe when people mention “diversity” because I just want entertainment back. And you know what? If a character is written with the goal of being a decent character, that’s what the producers would talk about. If they’re written solely for the purpose of “black protagonist” or “Asian protagonist” that’s what they’ll talk about, and it’s a red flag that that is the only thing that makes them worth watching.

"how Islam plays a factor in the end times."

How does it do that?

"As a Christian I’m not really going to argue for the Muslim point, but I do believe it’s highly dangerous because of the end time prophesies and how Islam plays a factor in the end times."

As long as the muslims don't promote sharia law but still show that they are muslim, I'm fine because Muslims need to be acknowledged too.

"Actually I have to disagree on that. A lot of modern entertainment (post 2020 stuff) has a lot of diversity for the sake of it and it really shows. Plus their diverse characters are straight up rude and justify it with what other people have done throughout history, and we are supposed to think of them as heroes."

I agree, but what they're doing is not enough.

"It almost makes me cringe when people mention “diversity” because I just want entertainment back."

Entertainment is still there, and if you don't like diversity in our pop culture, you may not be surprised but many movies didn't actually have women in movies. Do you think by your logic that back in those days, you wouldn't want women in these movies?

"And you know what? If a character is written with the goal of being a decent character, that’s what the producers would talk about. If they’re written solely for the purpose of “black protagonist” or “Asian protagonist” that’s what they’ll talk about, and it’s a red flag that that is the only thing that makes them worth watching."

I agree, but why not both?

“Everyone was racist 50 years ago”
That’s actually a Hollywood and CNN lie. Not everyone was racist 50 years ago- or even 150 years ago. There were slave abolitionists back in slave times. Each time period is just like this one; there are many different opinions among every different people group, and to try to label an entire time frame with one group of thought process is completely asinine and utterly ignorant. Plus, without social media or the news media back then, it was even harder to get everyone on the same page than it is now. This is why I say, history is FAR more complicated than you or I can even comprehend, and to act like we have a good bead on it, no matter what grades we got in history class, is extremely arrogant.

And that doesn’t even factor in the fact that most history taught in schools these days is complete misinformation. For example, they try to teach little kids how oppressive whites took over the Natives and how hard it must have been for the natives to have been dragged from their homes because of conquest, and “how would you feel about conquest if you were like the Natives?” What this fails to factor in is that the Natives did this to each other long before whites entered the picture. Matter of fact, some natives literally joined whites in numbers to take down rival tribes they didn’t like, or to get revenge against a tribe that had pillaged them. They literally helped whites take down other native tribes. One general marched against a native tribe and led an army of 900 Europeans and multi-thousands of Native Americans. This whole anti-war mindset they teach kids today? The Natives had no such conception and would never have come to the conclusion we come to today. They would’ve thought more along the lines of, “We lost because we didn’t fight hard enough”, not “We lost our land because those oppressive other folks came and stole it”. I am not defending what happened, I am simply stating that a spin is put on history that has nothing to do with the time frame and the people there.

So you’re literally defending outright racism because you believe society is still largely racist. The solution to yin is not yang.

“White Lives Matter” was not a thing before, so it can’t have a “white supremacist” history. It was literally only coined as an antithesis to BLM. And I’m on the side of “All Lives Matter”, which apparently, if you’re woke, isn’t racist enough to be anti-racist.

Yes, they were, even more openly and vehemently so than now, believe it or not.

"That’s actually a Hollywood and CNN lie. Not everyone was racist 50 years ago- or even 150 years ago. There were slave abolitionists back in slave times. Each time period is just like this one; there are many different opinions among every different people group, and to try to label an entire time frame with one group of thought process is completely asinine and utterly ignorant. Plus, without social media or the news media back then, it was even harder to get everyone on the same page than it is now. This is why I say, history is FAR more complicated than you or I can even comprehend, and to act like we have a good bead on it, no matter what grades we got in history class, is extremely arrogant."

This is an exaggeration, you know what I mean.

"And that doesn’t even factor in the fact that most history taught in schools these days is complete misinformation."

No it's not. Just look at primary sources and you'll see the truth.

"For example, they try to teach little kids how oppressive whites took over the Natives and how hard it must have been for the natives to have been dragged from their homes because of conquest, and “how would you feel about conquest if you were like the Natives?” What this fails to factor in is that the Natives did this to each other long before whites entered the picture. Matter of fact, some natives literally joined whites in numbers to take down rival tribes they didn’t like, or to get revenge against a tribe that had pillaged them. They literally helped whites take down other native tribes. One general marched against a native tribe and led an army of 900 Europeans and multi-thousands of Native Americans. This whole anti-war mindset they teach kids today? The Natives had no such conception and would never have come to the conclusion we come to today. They would’ve thought more along the lines of, “We lost because we didn’t fight hard enough”, not “We lost our land because those oppressive other folks came and stole it”. I am not defending what happened, I am simply stating that a spin is put on history that has nothing to do with the time frame and the people there."

This has also happened in Australia with the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders being oppressed by the British. There were massacres, small pox, the Stolen Generations.

"So you’re literally defending outright racism because you believe society is still largely racist. The solution to yin is not yang."

I'm not defending racism.

"“White Lives Matter” was not a thing before, so it can’t have a “white supremacist” history. It was literally only coined as an antithesis to BLM. And I’m on the side of “All Lives Matter”, which apparently, if you’re woke, isn’t racist enough to be anti-racist."

Look up the history of WLM, it literally is a reply to the BLM movement

They say it because they hate the culture of whites. If you pop over on LibsofTikTok for 2 seconds you’ll see what I mean. There have been Asian girls on there who have said disgusting things like “I’ll deliberately hook up with all you white men and have Asian babies. And one day we’re gonna f*** all you white folks out of existence.” (I am not kidding, people have actually said stuff that evil). Or, elaborating on how white people buying meat for thanksgiving is racist, or how they need to apologize for literally existing because them standing in a friggin’ room next to a black person is oppressive.

History is not as simple as “all white men bad, all black men oppressed”. There were black Congressmen in the late 1800s - early 1900s. One of the richest people to ever exist was an American black woman in the late 1800s (someone we’re never told about because it would go against narratives). There was much done to help blacks in the 20s-40s and we never are taught about it. The way people helped blacks was helping them get through education and giving them opportunities. And no matter how racist you want to make society out to be, this was working, and blacks were making money and growing and taking more advantages of the opportunity this country presented to them. However, in the 60s when the Civil Rights movement happened, this encouraged black women to “marry” the government and put an incentive for black families to be broken apart. Because of this, many black children grew up fatherless, a problem which highly affects many black children’s chances to succeed in life — to this day. So the reason blacks are behind today isn’t racism - or even slavery. It’s literally the thing we think helped them the most - the Civil Rights Movement.

The left is constantly anti-Semitic. They really seem to only pretend to care about Jews when they’re trying to make right-wingers out to be Nazis, and showing they care for Jews is how they show everyone they’re the “good guys”. Other than then, they never give a rip about Jews. They constantly attack them.

Also as a black person I don’t condone asian hate in the black community, which nobody wants to point out bc apparently you can’t criticize blacks these days. When black and asian activists meet to discuss how racism needs to stop, it’s always about how asians need to stop hating blacks and never vice versa. The point I’m making is that our ideas on how to stop racism are discriminatory, and thus - racist.

I don't we should continue debating these points. But from what we can tell, I guess we have to agree to disagree with our views. I am rather getting busy atm

In America people have had to apologize for being in movies about white people growing up through adversity and creating a life for themselves. Amy Adams was in one and people ripped it to shreds.
Paris is in Europe, a lack of diversity is understandable there. And movies having people of color is not what determines whether it is a good movie or not. Millions of people all around the world cheered in Spiderman No Way Home when Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield came in - and many of them were in countries with little to no white people. People don’t need to see someone who looks exactly like them to feel represented. Values are far more important. As a mostly black person myself, I would look up to a Captain America far more than any ol’ black superhero, say, Riri Williams (who is a racist entitled jerk). (Not saying all black superheroes are Riri, but what i’m doing is making the point that race doesn’t matter to me as much as values. If a black superhero came that was similar to Captain America, I’d be all for him/her).
But the other point is that what is going on in a movie doesn’t 100% determine what is being “celebrated”. People actually celebrating history themselves plays a factor.

This culture very much hates whites now. At this point you can easily say all whites are racist, or pride in white heritage is evil, and not face social consequences. Say that about blacks or asians and you are totally canceled. Kanye got in trouble for wearing “White Lives Matter” (not defending the junk he’s said recently) but he made a valid point when he was saying that lives matter both ways. People covering the topic spelled “white” like “W***e” like it’s a curse word. People on TikTok constantly censor the word white like it’s offensive. White kids in school are constantly taught to apologize for their heritage and to hate who they were born as.
And I hate to break it, but the people engineering this don’t really care about Jews either, and every now and then they pretend to but their real colors constantly show otherwise.

"In America people have had to apologize for being in movies about white people growing up through adversity and creating a life for themselves. Amy Adams was in one and people ripped it to shreds.
Paris is in Europe, a lack of diversity is understandable there."

There is a fairly high islam population in Paris, so if we wanted to showcase Paris still, maybe show some muslims.

"And movies having people of color is not what determines whether it is a good movie or not."

But people would more likely head off to see a movie if there is diversity. Apparently some of the best movies according to Rotten Tomatoes and Co are queer movies.

"Millions of people all around the world cheered in Spiderman No Way Home when Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield came in - and many of them were in countries with little to no white people. People don’t need to see someone who looks exactly like them to feel represented."

But some people do.

"Values are far more important."

Not necessarily.

"As a mostly black person myself, I would look up to a Captain America far more than any ol’ black superhero, say, Riri Williams (who is a racist entitled jerk). (Not saying all black superheroes are Riri, but what i’m doing is making the point that race doesn’t matter to me as much as values. If a black superhero came that was similar to Captain America, I’d be all for him/her)."

Because of the pop culture that has surrounded around Captain America, simples.

"But the other point is that what is going on in a movie doesn’t 100% determine what is being “celebrated”. People actually celebrating history themselves plays a factor."

Yes it does.

"This culture very much hates whites now."

No it doesn't.

"At this point you can easily say all whites are racist, or pride in white heritage is evil, and not face social consequences."

Not all whites are racists but everyone was racist 50 years ago.

"Say that about blacks or asians and you are totally canceled."

Because African-Americans and Asians are more vulnerable as they are a minority group that face discrimination by white supremacists.

"Kanye got in trouble for wearing “White Lives Matter” (not defending the junk he’s said recently) but he made a valid point when he was saying that lives matter both ways."

Kanye West's message has a white supremacist history, that's why he got "cancelled".

"People covering the topic spelled “white” like “W***e” like it’s a curse word."

Because some people don't realise that saying white isn't racist. Saying "black" in many contexts is racist apparently.

"People on TikTok constantly censor the word white like it’s offensive. White kids in school are constantly taught to apologize for their heritage and to hate who they were born as."

Because they need to be aware of our history.

"And I hate to break it, but the people engineering this don’t really care about Jews either, and every now and then they pretend to but their real colors constantly show otherwise."

They should care about jews, otherwise they'd be anti-semitic

I doubt 50 years time, but we don’t really know and the world is getting really dark these days (and we know it will get worse before God gets back). You’re right though, He probably would want to see equality, but not the kind many are advocating for. The world is pushing for equality of outcome, but the real idea of equality is equality of opportunity. If equality of opportunity ends up favoring certain races, that means something needs to be done to help people in some communities build themselves up. We should not be handing things to people simply for existing, otherwise they’ll be trained that they don’t have to try to get ahead in life. Which is why they ain’t ahead in life right now.

And for any reference, ask the Asian community, which usually excels in school and many opportunities (i say usually because I don’t want to put pressure on anyone who doesn’t, since they usually feel a lot of that anyway from family). They came to America with many disadvantages and they outperform whites in many arenas, if you count the percentage of population ratio. Usually if you mention Asians in the ghetto black community, they get offended and brush it off and say completely racist things toward them (because the community as a whole disproves the narrative they want to push). (I know, most of my family is in this community and has a lot of these mindsets). And tbh, black racism against Asians is a problem that the media simply does not want to address. They’ll address Asian racism against blacks and how it needs to be fixed, but black racism is simply ignored.

Ig my point in all this is, this stuff is far more complicated than “white bad, everyone else good”, or “white man celebrated, minorities neglected”.

"I doubt 50 years time, but we don’t really know and the world is getting really dark these days (and we know it will get worse before God gets back)."

Climate Change and Russia's Invasion of Ukraine has contributed to this.

"You’re right though, He probably would want to see equality, but not the kind many are advocating for."

Maybe you have been indoctrinated by Fox News. These conservatives were the very same people who advocated slavery, they also advocated segregation, and actually fought against giving basic rights to African-Americans.

"The world is pushing for equality of outcome, but the real idea of equality is equality of opportunity. If equality of opportunity ends up favoring certain races, that means something needs to be done to help people in some communities build themselves up."

It never would favour certain races. This is exactly what the Great Replacement Theory mentions, don't listen to that rubbish.

"And for any reference, ask the Asian community, which usually excels in school and many opportunities (i say usually because I don’t want to put pressure on anyone who doesn’t, since they usually feel a lot of that anyway from family). They came to America with many disadvantages and they outperform whites in many arenas, if you count the percentage of population ratio. Usually if you mention Asians in the ghetto black community, they get offended and brush it off and say completely racist things toward them (because the community as a whole disproves the narrative they want to push). (I know, most of my family is in this community and has a lot of these mindsets). And tbh, black racism against Asians is a problem that the media simply does not want to address. They’ll address Asian racism against blacks and how it needs to be fixed, but black racism is simply ignored."

Racism against Asians is indeed a huge problem, just look at COVID-19, people had Anti-China sentiment.

"Ig my point in all this is, this stuff is far more complicated than “white bad, everyone else good”, or “white man celebrated, minorities neglected”."

White people are not bad because of their race, but the reality is that many white ancestors were the oppressors and you just can't get rid of history.

tbh who has celebrated white people in the last few years? the culture kinda hates white people now. it’s racist to even be happy about white heritage.

tbh i’m not really the type to care about celebrating any heritage but i don’t like hypocrisy so if you’re going to say celebrate one, i wouldn’t be for not celebrating the other. I would say this 50 years ago, and i would say the same now.

“tbh who has celebrated white people in the last few years?”

There are still movies that celebrate white culture, there are still movies based in Paris, New York and LA lacking diversity

“the culture kinda hates white people now.”

No they don’t.

“it’s racist to even be happy about white heritage.”

No it’s not. If people say it’s racist to be white, then they are anti-Semitic because they will have offended 90% of Jews.

“tbh i’m not really the type to care about celebrating any heritage but i don’t like hypocrisy so if you’re going to say celebrate one, i wouldn’t be for not celebrating the other. I would say this 50 years ago, and i would say the same now.”

But there may be no world in 50 years time, God may have returned to earth by then, and I bet he’d want to see equality.