End the gaslighting, this shit's busted.

Is the Electoral College involved in MI State House elections?

District voting is.

Yes, Gerrymandering is the issue. The local version of the electoral college.

It's fair because Republicans can't win if they don't cheat

How many urban vs rural counties does Michigan have? I've never been there.

I'd be remiss to say that it doesn't matter.
This discrepancy is statistically improbable to win the popular vote 5/6 times, but *also* *LOSE* the "majority" vote 5/6 times.

This shows an inconsistency that represent an uneven slant in American politics which is weighing the minority vote more and more, making the majority vote less and less valuable.

The system is designed to be fair, yes. However, it shouldn't be a "close call" with a voting disparity between parties of nine million votes when that amount adds up to roughly a ten percent difference in either party.

Of course, removing parties would help, or even creating more parties. But that's not happening right now. What is happening right now is extreme gerrymandering to such an extent that the equivalent of the minority party is overpowering a deficit to the equivalent of over 18 wyoming states (at the national level)

Personally I think power should be decentralized to the county level as much as possible to avoid this problem entirely...but that's just me. 🤷‍♂️

We've seen this past summer that local governization will lend others to put forth laws that are unconstitutional.

Sorry, I wasn't clear; I meant that I think the Constitution should be amended so that power is decentralized to states and beyond in that manner. I would abhor such claiming of power by local governments in the same way I abhor when the Federal government carves out more power for itself without amendments.

The process would be key. :)

What you are describing is the divided states of America. It is an extreme alt right point of view.

Uh, I feel it'd actually unite us more because we'd be less inclined to ram our views down each other's throats and be more free to all live our own lives, inasmuch is reasonable possible (I.E not in a libertarian way).

Then there are things you don’t understand how America works.

By all means, enlighten me. This is how America worked for a long time, pal.

It doesn’t seem like you understand the purpose for having a centralized government.

The more centralized a government is, the more it will suppress individualism for the benefit of whomever controls that government.

I not only understand heavily centralized government, I fear it. You should too. Look at history and how all abuses of power have occurred. It *can* be a powerful force for good, but the only guarantee is that it *will* be subverted for evil.

I don don’t know where you get that from, but I disagree.

I do however agree with you about how it will be subverted for evil. That’s what Trump did.

Where do I get it from? For real? Look at every government that actively committed atrocities against its own people. The French Republic in the Vendee. Germany after Bismarck unified it. Russia. I've named three. There are more. The only way to oppress a sovereign people is to have a central government over them so powerful that they can't defend themselves from its will.

How can you claim to disagree with me and yet admit that you recognize a central government controlled by Trump would be a threat? That is quite literally my point. If we stuck to the principle of subsidiarity and always made decisions at the lowest possible level then there wouldn't be any threat in the first place no matter who is in control.

Conservatives and liberals wouldn't have to worry about being forced to do what they're told by whomever controls D.C because the actual power to make decisions would be relegated down to the state or local level and multiplied equally by however many different areas there are that make given decisions.

Personally I prefer squabbling among equals than tyranny of big corporations and parties in D.C. You do you.

If I’m honest with you, I think there are no good guys. Left,right, Centralized decentralized, if your using past as precedence than it’s only a matter of time until it all goes to shit. I am thankful for every day I get to spend above the ground with food in my belly. Don’t think I take it for granted.

Macho. Hard men. And good times.

The world is full of good people. Always has been, always will be. My sole point is that if we create mechanisms for great power, we will see them used for equally great evil. The greater the potential for good, the greater for evil as well.

The past teaches us what not to repeat. The problem is that we keep making the same mistakes. This isn't to say we're doomed, because we can always make a difference in any given moment; I'm saying that it's more important to create a society where we appreciate the small things and each other (as you clearly do 🙂) rather than one where we try to create a utopia. That's where our problems start.

There's an awesome saying. "Hard times forge good men. Good men bring good times. Good times produce weak men. Weak men make hard times."