Kevin mccarthy

Way to (not) stay on point.

I guess for you, no matter what the meme is about, spewing anti-Trump venom in response is a standard procedure, hey? For all intents and purposes Pavlovian.

Both realities portrayed in the memes are Trump's fault though. Even you could not deny that.

Please don't tell me you're coming to the aid of damagedgood! That would be a very sorry state for you to find yourself in, yolo. (yes, just my opinion...)

I don't think it's valid to lump the 'realities' portrayed in both memes together. The "reality" side of the OP's meme is entirely different from the inanity posted by damagedgood. I'm going to ignore that, because it's attempting to paint a false reality. Nothing wrong in the attempt because it is just a meme, but also easily identified and ignored.

So as far as the OP's meme goes, I'm not sure I can agree with you, but probably not for the reasons you might guess. Sure, the media will tell you it's bad that the republicans don't have a Speaker yet, but the reality of it as far as I'm concerned is that it's nothing more than the wheels of democracy turning. Those who have opposed McCarthy have gained multiple concessions that should make the Speaker's role a better role for the entire country, not just republicans. It also shows that they are not bound by groupthink as the democrats seem to be.

So if you want to give Trump credit for that, it's okay with me. You call it fault because you're overly influenced by the lying anti-Trump media, imo.

A take that is a step back would be that in a very general sense I think we are in agreement in the sense that a fair amount of the crap heaped on Trump by the media is due to his personality. The media are not mature enough, nor professional enough to judge him objectively, and he just pours fuel onto that fire. One might almost say that he enjoys it, and they might be right.

Lol
Tbh I was f*cking with you a little bit when I said that... I just wanted to see how you'd respond.

But... that being said......

"On January 6, 2021, as a mob of Donald Trump's supporters stormed the US Capitol, the then-House minority leader and President Trump engaged in an angry phone conversation...

"You've got to call these people off," Mr McCarthy demanded of Mr Trump, according to Congresswoman Jamie Herrera-Beutler of Washington, whom Mr McCarthy told of the call. "They're your people."

"Well, Kevin, I guess they are just more upset about the election theft than you are," Mr Trump replied. "
-BBC

I'm pretty sure the congressmen/women blocking McCarthy are Trumpers... I do not think it is a coincidence.

And I'm not necessarily saying it's bad or good. I'm just saying I see a parallel there.. idk if anyone would've stormed the capitol for Mitt Romney... (Or tried to block a speaker)

"Tbh I was f*cking with you a little bit when I said that... I just wanted to see how you'd respond."

How'd I do?

Nice quotes, but none of that would stand up in a court of law. A kangaroo court like the Jan 6 committee, yes, but not a real court of law.

Romney... now you definitely are fcuking with me any time you mention that rino klown!

Well tbh you seemed more bothered by the context (kind of supporting what damaged had said) vs my comment itself. Lol

I'm not making a case that I think anyone will go to jail or be charged for any of this. I'm just talking about it in the court of public opinion. And noticing that there kind of was a link between what damaged said and the OP.

Without trump (and his supporters), there wouldn't have been a Jan 6th, nor the account of an alleged phone call from McCarthy to trump about Jan 6th...A phone call which may have contributed to the idea that McCarthy is a RINO (or RINO adjacent) and therefore 15 rounds of voting for him.

"I'm just talking about it in the court of public opinion. "

Sadly, that court is overly influenced by a media that has established itself as having no professionalism and no objectivity and absolutely zero concern for telling the truth to we the people.

Without Pelosi, Schiff and all those on the left who are nothing more than politically motivated to maintain their power by keeping Trump's name in the news, but only associated with negative news, there wouldn't even be a Jan 6 Committee (well, Kangaroo committee...)

They're also desperately hoping that something would come out of that committee that will allow them to indict Trump, which might seem likely with a puppet like Garland as AG. But Garland's been somewhat stunted by Dementia Joe's recent escapade with classified documents. Bottom line is they're desperately hoping that Trump will somehow be convicted of something in order to prevent him from running again. Of course, they've been at it since 2015 and nothing has worked so far, so as I always say, I'll believe they've gotten him when they get him.

Specifically as far as McCarthy, he doesn't move the needle for me much one way or the other. Most republicans in Congress are rinos, and he's no different.

I'm not 100% sure about the details of this but I think the media some time ago changed their business model to involve clicks...... Hence "click bait".

"Without Pelosi, Schiff.....there wouldn't even be a Jan 6 Committee"

Well I for one am glad those democrats are there then. If Benghazi warranted 11 investigations (or however many it was), then surely Jan 6th warrants at least one. That sh*t was crazy. And it wouldn't have happened without trump. But he's probably not going to jail over it.

Seems you have to be a bit kooky to not be a "RINO" these days.

I think it's fine to have an investigation of 1/6, but the way they did it was more kangaroo court than serious investigation.

Any "investigation" that already has already reached its conclusion before it even begins, isn't an investigation at all, imo.

I could say the same thing about literally any republican investigation.

It's quite apparent how serious investigations will be with MTG in the mix again, back on oversight committees. Woman literally joking about "we would've won" as far as Jan 6th.

"I could say the same thing about literally any republican investigation."

Fair enough. I do think the republicans are probably going overboard and investigating a bunch of crap that won't bear any fruit for them as far as showing the crap that Biden and his campaign were up to, and what he's been blundering his way through as president.

I don't pay much heed to MTG on a lot of things. She sort of reminds me of a popular internet doctor / health specialist. People should look at her in a very general way instead of getting into the weeds of all the crazy things she says.

I wonder how many millions of dollars has been spent in the past decade of govt investigations that went nowhere.

I bring her up in context of "serious investigations".... Also saying crazy sh*t was kind of what led to Jan 6th in the first place.