Russians need to oust Putin.

It’s not that people are stupid in Russia, it’s just that they’re too scared of Putin to say anything against him. The man is even more of a tyrant than Josef Stalin

The whole top secret documents in his office thing.

And inciting Jan. 6th.

Tax crimes, campaign finance crimes.

It’s a shame Gorbachev died recently. :(

Leave it to pTOO to be naive and ignorant enough to *still* desperately cling to the proven false Russian collusion narrative.

His campaign staff met with known Russian operatives.
As president, he met at least 16 times (twice in person) alone with Putin, without any advisors or someone to create a transcript, in violation of the Presidential Records Act. Why would we want to meet alone with Putin? Don't be naive.

"His campaign staff met with known Russian operatives."

After the election. Standard.

"Why would we want to meet alone with Putin?"

You're asking me to speculate. I try not to do that. Usually when people speculate, it only reveals their ignorance and prejudices. You've clearly speculated and come to a position based on those speculations. My methods are more sound.

Besides, why should I trust you that these "facts" are correct? Speculate on that.

Oh, no, it was during the campaign. NOT after.

Remember the "adopting babies" meeting Don JR had with known Russian agents?

Which he admitted turned out to not be about adopting Russian babies at all.

Did you memory hole that?

Or that his campaign removed mentions of Russia as a threat from the Republican party platform?

Did you memory hole that too?

Or the times campaign advisor, then Senator, and future Attorney General Jefferson Sessions met with Russians?

or Carter Page?

Or that time Roger Stone admitted that he was tipped off ahead of time by someone working for the Russians that Julian Assange was going to publish information about Clinton?

And you clearly memory holed campaign chief Paul "I helped overthrow the Ukranian government for the Russians" Manafort stumbling over this easy question: https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/844547602184048642

"Or that his campaign removed mentions of Russia as a threat from the Republican party platform?"

So you think Trump didn't recognize Russia as a threat? Why did he very publicly scold NATO members, particularly Germany, about their reliance on Russian fuel? All you have to do in order to figure out who Putin fears is look at what he did during the watch of the president right before Trump, and during the watch of the president right after Trump. Even the folks here on ptooo should be able to piece that one together.

"Remember the "adopting babies" meeting Don JR had with known Russian agents?"

Wow, I guess when you've so indoctrinated by the media that you *want* to believe, you'll believe just about anything. Amazing... Don Jr. was pretty thoroughly investigated on that meeting, and if it was traitorous or even illegal in any way at all, don't you think the lapdogs in the media would have been all over it?

Look, you guys are just pissed that your best media people (and in this case, "best" means most corrupt and willing to lie for the dem cause) have thrown everything they have at the guy, made up or not, and he just won't go away. Most would have wilted under that kind of relentless pressure, but not Trump. And yes, he's that tough when he looks out for our interests as nation, as well.

All that's for you guys to deal with. I might prefer someone other than Trump to run in 2024, but you guys make is soooooo hard to want anyone else when we see your collective heads explode at the mere mention of Donaldus Maximus.

You memory hole EVERYTHING about Trump.

Changing the stance on Russia and Ukraine. He denied they'd done it. Then when confronted with evidence his campaign had, he said he didn't know anything about it.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2016/aug/04/did-trump-campaign-soften-platform-language-benefi/

Russian "Babies"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45079377

"US President Donald Trump has admitted his son met a Russian lawyer in June 2016 "to get information on an opponent", but argues it was legal.

Donald Trump Jr's meeting with Kremlin-linked lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower could constitute a breach of US campaign rules, experts say.

And the meeting is being investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller as part of his inquiry into Russia's alleged role to help Mr Trump win."

But yeah, no collusion.

Even though his son met with a Russian lawyer to get info on Hillary. AND THEN LIED ABOUT IT.

Deep sigh... look, it's simple. Trump is a patriot, and there's absolutely zero reason for Putin to prefer him over feckless, spineless, dipwads like HRC or Biden, that he can walk all over.

Russian collusion simply does not pass the sniff test for anyone with any objectivity.

You guys can pay for fake pee pee dossiers all you want, but you got nothing. You have no proof, and you never have. If you did, something would have come of it by now, other than all aspects of it being disproven.

I guess in your case, you don't have to "memory hole" anything, because all you have to remember is the festering lies told to you by a media and a swamp that view Trump as an existential threat, and will do anything, including lying to the naive and ill informed, that a great patriot is not a great patriot. Nothing will change your viewpoint, other than figuring it out for yourself (which btw, is what I did when I just started to check up on what the media was telling us about Trump in 2015). So there's no point in us discussing anything.

there is no such thing as "alternate facts" like trump would have people believe. we were all there, we all heard it. hide your head in the sand. better yet go to your side.... let America continue to be great without maga.

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

Given how traitorous the FBI's leadership has been, anyone should be against them. Of course, I won't address your "opinion" here directly.

Man, I guess if I want to see what the cumulative effect of prolonged TDS does to the human brain, this is the stream to see it.

Go ahead and beat the Russian collusion narrative's drum all you want. It's a dead issue. IF Trump runs again, I have only this to ask of the demotard party and their candidate: please, Please, PLEASE bring it up.

Excuse me sir but was collusion brought up at all in this meme? Or are you just adding unrelated things because you can't give a good comeback?

The Republican led Senate Intelligence Committee proved there was collusion between the putin regime and the trump campaign.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

Where? I might get around to reading all 960+ pages, but for the purpose of any rational conversation in a timely manner, a page # would be helpful.

I somehow doubt there's any proof in this document though... otherwise, the media would have been in a feeding frenzy since its release. I recall when it was released, and I don't remember anyone saying there was proof of what you claim. So yeah, a page # would be helpful. Thanks.

meanwhile, in the real world. Seriously maga folks should move to Russia, they have the exact same mentality

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiring-have-us-citizens-act-illegal-agents-russian-government

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-russia-elections-election-2020-robert-mueller-bf7e4d4015f8644f0fe8cb341d635897