Hypocrisy

You mean like vaccine mandates right ?

No. Everyone is free to be unvaccinated, and to be tossed out on their ear when attempting to enter private property that doesn't permit unvaccinated individuals. Freedom is a 2-way street, not a ticket to be a selfish ass. Everyone can choose to do as they please, and to deal with the consequences of those choices.

Ask yourself.......if Trump had mandated vaccinations would you be as supportive?......and that's about the sum of political debate in the States

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libs were selfish when they called it the Trump vaccine...

Didn't realize SHS was a lib
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/07/26/sarah-huckabee-sanders-calls-covid-19-vaccine-the-trump-vaccine-urges-people-to-get-it/amp/

Yes... back then, libs were saying they refused to take the vaccine because it was the Trump vaccine... LOL

Oh, you mean like how more concervatives supported the Afordable Care Act than Obamacare even though the only difference was the name. Yeah, both groups are pretty fxcking dense.

Oh, so all you have as a comeback is a deflection... got it...

So all you have when I hold up a mirror is to spit at the reflection. Got it.

LOL... libs don't own mirrors... they can't face the truth...

"Oh, so all you have as a comeback is a deflection... got it..."
I can site sources if needed, in case you forgot who said this 5 minutes ago.

If he practiced what he preached it would have made it easier to support. You're right about political debate, if it can even be called that.

I was reflecting after my previous comment and realized I don't support vaccine mandates in practice. I chose to get vaccinated and I believe it's a sensible precaution, but it runs afoul of my sensibilities to fire federal employees who refuse to get vaccinated. Federal positions are public, and people shouldn't be forced to do anything in public spaces or public institutions: get vaccinated, pray, wear clothes, or anything else, as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's rights. Someone offended by witnessing another person practicing their rights is not a violation of the rights of the observer. I.e. shaming breastfeeding mothers, nudists, open carry advocates, etc.

Exceptions must exist where public health and safety are concerned a la shouting fire in a crowded building not being protected as free speech, or hairnets (and clothing) being required in food service and medical settings, or firearms in (somewhat ironically) federal buildings. Vaccination mandates may be ethical when public health and safety are at stake, by weighing everyone's collective right not to have their health and/or safety imperiled against individual people's rights not to decrease the risk of those perils, but that's (as most political issues are) murky.

Even as enacted vaccine mandates are a far cry from someone kicking your door down and stabbing you against your will. That would be as much of a flagrant violation of personal rights as Florida prohibiting private businesses from requiring their patrons to be vaccinated.

As long as others are willing to "reflect" on their liberal stance on issues without an echo chamber bellowing behind them, debate can move forward.

An interesting choice of words, since the conservative stance is to regress rather than progress, but your point can be validly applied to both sides of the aisle.

That's your opinion and i fully support the right for you to express it, i don't agree, but that doesn't automatically make my opinion unjust or bigoted.

Not unjust or bigoted, just 1-sided. My point was that you only called out 1 side of the political coin, implying a bias for one side and/or against the other.

So does that "1 sided" viewpoint only apply to conservatives in your opinion?

Economic sure, but moral? There's the rub: in a moral absolutist universe it's Highlander rules. Conversation is irrelevant because in the end there can be only one. And when tolerance meets intolerance...well, history has demonstrated how that plays out. My biggest complaint is all the popcorn getting stuck in my teeth watching this farce play out.

And that says it all......

What, learning from history? If learning isn't beyond ones capacity, our entire civilization was built through exploitation, cruelty, xenophobia and genocide. And the same group benefiting from that conquest and pilferage packs most of the munitions, preaching "turn or burn" in so many words. That lumps a lot of groups together, but their overlap is staggering, and you'd have to be an imbicile not to see where it leads: a totalitarian dictatorship, or a fallen monolithic utopia where the last prevailing party eats itself for want of further enemies to persecute, which then reorders into a totalitarian dictatorship.
Don't get me wrong--I have no desire to be in charge. It's too much fun placing bets on the sidelines.

Absolutely not. Both sides are equally hypocrritcal and misguided in my eyes.

But we need to align with one moral/economic viewpoint.....i got mine

So how do you preserve each of their rights?

One person's rights end where another person's rights begin. Both sides of the aisle fuxk this up pretty egregiously.

F**k that

Sooo...you're right and everyone else can suck it? Or are you conceeding that it's you who is never right?