Clarification of terms

contraception is birth control
abortion is killing a baby because you couldn't be bothered to use birth control

That's certainly a common opinon. Doesn't do anything to further the conversation, but that's never been something the anti-choice crowd has been willing, interested or capable of doing.

well thats because the only further part of the conversation are 10 liberals all eventually being forced to agree to abortions are only ok up until 'its a life/baby', followed by all 10 giving different answers as to when that happens.

We don't care to further the conversation we've been having for a decade or more. if you don't know when life begins and you're not willing to prevent life no matter how many options are thrown at you, you can't be helped.

I'd heard literally every stage from the first heart beat at 5-6 weeks all the way to 7-8 months were a baby can survive without medical supervision
They don't have even a basic grasp on when anything begins.

Vehemently outraged about a subject but no specifics, no definitions and no consensus = the liberal way

More like too many specifics and too many definitions, but you weren't wrong about the lack of consensus. 1 out of 3 ain't bad. Oh wait, that's a low F. Eh, it fits.

On the subject of no definitions, have you ever used pest control? Insects and rodents are alive. Eat meat? That was life too. Ever taken antibiotics? That's genocide on a scale you can't even fathom. Did you mean human life but thought it went without saying? Ok, do you support the death penalty? Did you mean innocent human life? Would you feel justified murdering someone on your property before you could ascertain their intentions? Is the fact that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time justification enough for ending them? Well that's how some people feel about fetuses. So unless you're one of those unicorn reactionary pacifists, you're not so different from people who might choose under certain preventable but unfortunate circumstances to get an abortion. Even if you're too stupid or stubborn to see it or admit it.