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I almost agree with both of him. | HOW CAN YOU OPPOSE GUN
CONTROL WHEN
SO MANY
PEOPLE
ARE
DYING? BELIEVE IT OR NOT,
FREEDOM AND
PERSONAL RIGHTS
ARE MORE IMPORTANT. OKAY, SO YOU'RE PRO-
CHOICE ON 
ABORTION 
THEN? ARE YOU KIDDING?
NOTHING'S MORE
IMPORTANT THAN
A HUMAN LIFE. | image tagged in trump supporter,memes,gun control,abortion,conservative hypocrisy | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
542 views 16 upvotes Made by anonymous 3 years ago in politicsTOO
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2 ups, 3y
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1 up, 3y,
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Nice meme. You have nailed one of the (several) main hypocrisies of the republican party, which is one of the reasons I never have been a member and never will be.
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0 ups, 3y,
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thank you
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
You're welcome. Although, you have to know it is likely one of the few things we agree on.
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i know
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Most liberals think banning guns will prevent gun violence. However making gun control legislations does not stop gun violence or access to guns, Mr. Phillip Luty proved anyone has access to firearms by making the 9mm luty from spare parts in a house garage, as well as bullets from scratch. Criminals also don't follow laws, so why would a criminal listen to "common sense" gun control legislations. "If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim" (Jeff Cooper). Criminals don't fear being prosecuted, otherwise they would not be criminals at all. In fact when the criminal opens fire on innocent people a law isn't going to stop them, but a well placed bullet will. On December 29 in 2019 a criminal attempted to shoot a church congregation in Texas. "When a man pulled a shotgun out from under a long coat and started shooting into a church congregation near Fort Worth, Texas, last winter, Jack Wilson didn't hesitate. Within seconds, the volunteer security guard unholstered his weapon and returned fire. With one shot, Wilson killed the 43-year-old gunman and then kicked the shotgun away. Keith Thomas Kinnunen had already shot two congregants, who died. But there were more than 250 people in the West Freeway Church of Christ that day, on Dec. 29, and many credit Wilson for saving many more lives"(https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/918185532/grand-jury-declines-to-indict-church-security-guard-who-killed-gunman-in-texas). Many more examples of foiled attempted shootings have similar stories, a trained civilian with a firearm stops the criminal shortly after the criminal starts firing. Gun laws won't stop gun violence and mass shootings or access to firearms. Only a trained civilian with a firearm can stop criminals immediately and prevent further violence.
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0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
your argument is specious. unfortunately (or fortunately?), i'm a busy fellow with no time and little inclination to steer you aright.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
please clarify what you mean by the argument being implausible. is it the guns being accessible to criminals regardless of gun laws or is it the criminals not fearing laws. I would like to hear your opinion so I can help others understand my comment.
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not implausible. wrong. this is something you can do yourself. take it one sentence at a time. "most liberals think banning guns will prevent gun violence." that's not true. it's just a claim you're making so you can disagree with it. then you go on, saying criminals don't follow laws, so laws are useless. the whole post is this kind of nonsense. i don't mean to be mean, but if you want to argue effectively, you need to respect the other person and give them real facts and logical deductions. if you're just here for the mindless back-and-forth, i'm not the person you want.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Thank you for responding back, I appreciate your opinion. It is always helpful to have a second set of eyes looking at things. I am sorry for taking up your time, but now I can knowledgeably clarify.

Yes, I said most liberals think banning guns will prevent gun violence. This is true, because often times liberal protesters argue to get rid of the second amendment to protect the children.

When I say criminals do not follow laws, I do not mean laws are useless. What I mean is laws that are made to prevent criminals from getting firearms are useless, because the laws apply to gun shops and 4473 forms(as required by the ATF). However most criminals do not get their firearms from gun shops most of the time they are illegally obtained. According to the U.S. Department of Justice "Fewer than 1 in 50 (less than 2%) of all prisoners had obtained a firearm from a retail source and possessed, carried, or used it during the offense for which they were imprisoned"(U.S. Department of Justice). So where do criminals get their guns? They get them from guns being illegally bought in underground markets or guns being smuggled across an open border, or they make the firearm from scrap. Because the criminals do no get their firearms from retail sources. A legislation making it even more stricter to buy a firearm does not make sense, As less than two percent get fire arms from a legal source.
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0 ups, 3y
i see that you're trying but the basic mistakes in logic are killing you. i strongly suggest taking a class in debate or joining a debate club. they will emphasize attention to verifiable facts and solid logic.
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