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Lol! One of my favorite episodes. That show rocks.

And yet you watch it with a surprising lack of self awareness

Oh I have plenty of self awareness regarding the show.

Do you, though?

Apparently what you get out of the show is different from what I get out of the show. It’s all good. I upvoted your original reply because I thought you made a funny response that made a good point. That doesn’t mean I agree with your side overall mind you, but I can laugh at myself and my side of the issue. Never take yourself too seriously.

Just because you enjoy the show, doesn't mean you've listened to a single word Dan Harmon wrote. And I don't think you have.

True. I’ve not checked out what Dan Harmon says or believes. That’s irrelevant. My ability to enjoy a creative item in no way is dependent on whether I agree or disagree with the item’s creator’s personal beliefs or statements. I can enjoy something that was made by someone who is my political enemy or my political friend. The work stands (or not) on its own merits.

HE WRITES IT INTO THE SHOW!! That's not irrelevant, that's really the crux of my point right there.

Again, calm down. Breath. Just because a person uses a site doesn’t mean they know all the ins and outs of it. I’ve never gotten this far down in the reply layers. As I said before I rarely make a lot of comments.

That's. Not. The point.

Even though you didn't know, you assumed you did.

Calm down. Breathe. Just because I am conservative on some issues doesn’t mean I’m conservative on all issues. I don’t usually wax philosophical on these pages but I’ll do so this time. For your sake. I’m a scientist and a Christian and a Gemini to boot. My Scientist sci fi geek adores the brilliant sci fi concepts he comes up with and my Christian side adores that the show paints a picture of Gods creation being so bizarre that humans can’t fathom it. It’s like Darwin not being able to understand how a benevolent God could create parasitic wasps. But God is not human. Gods ability to create what we view as monstrosities demonstrates there is “nothing above or beside” God that can legit tell God what is or is not acceptable morally speaking. God makes the rules, not man. Just because we think something is monsterous doesn’t mean God does too. That’s how I view the twisted cosmos that Dan Harmon has envisioned. If that is not Dan’s intent, so be it. But that’s how I interpret it. No work of fiction’s intent survives being introduced to the public. A fan once told David Fincher that he thought Fight Club was an allegory about two gay guys having sex. David could only nod and say “Sure, whatever.”

You know, I was just starting to compose a response to all of that with my head - but the sheer gravity of that last part of what you wrote really just encapsulates ALL the mistakes you've been making here.

Maybe David Fincher didn't direct it into the movie, BUT CHUK PALAHNIUK WROTE IT INTO THE BOOK!!! As a homosexual himself, Fight Club was fully intended to be a deeply cutting satire and subversion of toxic masculinity culture.

And you didn't get it.

You loved it! You raved about it. You still do. You talk to anyone who will listen about how Fight Club restored the rebellious ideals of masculinity that you think has been missing from pop culture in the last few decades.

All the while, completely oblivious to the fact that YOU - not men, not conservatives, I mean you - you, specifically, Reggie Megeddon - YOU were the joke. Fight Club was a portrayal of the absurdity of specifically your commitment to missing the point of how the world sees you.

And Chuk Palahniuk wrote it in on purpose. You just didn't actually get it. Seeing yourself in the charicature of yourself was just too easy a resolution for you, so you went with that.

You seem to have turned off comments to your last post so I’ll respond here. I’m a part of the world, so from a certain point of view the world sees me as I see myself. I reject your reality and substitute my own. Of course I’m a joke. Everyone is. All the world is a stage and we are but players in it.

If we shadows have offended,
 Think but this, and all is mended--
 That you have but slumbered here
 While these visions did appear.

@modda - thanks! I concur.

In the book, The Wanderers, two of the main characters were involved in such a relationship, something only somewhat hinted at in the movie when they wake up in one of their rooms dressed in their undies, then seen on a sign for San Francisco as they escape from the Bronx. Being that it was 1963, maybe some figured they were off to Haight-Asbury and it ain't the first time someone slept in their underwear, but I dont see anyone threatening to sue them for not getting it what went on before bedtime.

I didn't even read that book, a sibling told me how that relation was more detailed in it. On top of that, while The Wanderers gang was a composite of real gangs, the Fordham Baldies were a real, only they weren't bald as portrayed, just that the bald eagle was part of their emblem.

As seen in the screenshot, the book describes the Ducky Boys as "stunted Irish madmen...." none over 5'6", and they were a real gang too, I found out last year. But they weren't all short like that nor totally Irish and actually DID speak, unlike the book saying it was limited or in the movie where they were totally silent. (Ace Frehley was a Ducky Boy, btw).

Anyways, the point of all this is from reality > book > movie > viewing audience eyes things change, and as seen on the screen with the Wanderers, that adds to the magic of the movie, and even the real life Ducky Boys & Girls shrug off the exaggerations with a laugh.

Dang, among the things I went off to look for was an article with that last bit, but then I found them pages and was looking for pics and it is getting late,,,

Ironically, your portrayal on the stage was that of someone who hasn't forgotten that he's a human being, nor that others are as well.

Kudus for being civil and offering respect even after the offer was rejected in the most unbecoming way,,,

Oh for God's sakes! How the hell have you been using imgflip for 5 years and you've no idea how it works?

I didn't turn off the comments - imgflip only allows 12 layers of comments!! The reply link was disabled because my comment is in the bottom layer allowed on imgflip. I did literally nothing to make that happen - it ALWAYS happens at that stage of the thread.

And I can't make your lack of self awareness any more stark than that! I really don't know what else to tell you.

"All the while, completely oblivious to the fact that YOU - not men, not conservatives, I mean you - you, specifically, Reggie Megeddon - YOU were the joke. Fight Club was a portrayal of the absurdity of specifically your commitment to missing the point of how the world sees you."

Curious observation as he's not the one pounding his Stallonesque-inating chest with one fist while twirling his manly-man juice dripping nutsack like a laser-sighted set of boleadoras with the other. Quite the opposite in fact.

Not EVERYONE read the book, heck I ain't read it nor seen the movie, because I am totally that uncool and couldn't give a crap's ass [see what I did there?] about the joke about the joke about what a joke it is how men are so utterly engrossed in making a big deal about the uremarkable things they enjoy doing to each other.
Yes, I have referred to the flick's visuals of hot hunky mens flexing their gleaming sweaty pecs while pummeling each other in the basement. Delightfully and DELIBERATELY oblivious to the secret theme left out the cinema doors, I likened it to ye olde mascul[ust]ity exhibited in le arte of the Greeks and the Romans to the Soviets and the Nazis and yes, now by the Righties and (albeit more covered up) ISIL. Does that mean a flogging for me not quoting it verbatim from the source?

The OP was being civil in all his replies to you. Is it always necessary to be antagonistic? What's the point? What's the goal? Win sympathy so that when Trump wins in 2024, they'll make the extirpation of the enemy as quick and painless as possible because the soon-to-no-longer-be-a-problem might get irritated while lining up in front of the last ditch they'll ever dig?

There's enough ornery trolls littering their site. Let's not justify that which they do and lend them more to do it with.

@Modda - You know, I’d forgotten that the movie was based on a book til he brought it up. Maybe I should buy a copy and add it to my stack of books to read. Currently slogging through Andy Ngo’s book “Unmasked”, Saul Alinskys classic “Rules for Radicals” and a rather intriguing book called “The Genalogical Adam and Eve”. So many books, so little time.

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I guess our honeymoon phase is over then? Ah well. We’ll always have Paris. Here’s looking at you kid.