You're Fighting Over The Two Lowest Rated Men In History. Neither One Should Be President!!! DUH!

Wait didn’t Biden get the most votes out of any president tho… how is he the lowest rated!

Look at the population. Look at how many registered voters there were vs are now. Biden got more votes because, I believe, there was no other choice. I didn't vote FOR Biden. I felt forced to vote against Trump and what he has stood for since the 80's. No one in my immediate family has ever voted. I gave up trying to get them to decades ago. Every one of them came to me and asked me to help them register to vote. I didn't influence them. Trump did.

Our government needed to be shaken. I agree with that. But this isn't shaken. This is broken. This is PTSD. This is both sides stepping all over the constitution. This is not what the people want. Some people romanticize the notion of a civil war but absolutely no one wins in a civil war. Your grandchildren will still be suffering if we descend into a civil war now. I just don't think all of us should be fighting over these two outdated dinosaurs. Just my opinion.

Your opinion has good points actually. Unfortunately because of this, our country has been turned into turmoil and people fantasize about civil war. I really don’t think people know exactly what would happen if we had a civil war.

Thank you. I think ALL of our opinions matter. We can't accommodate everyone's every whim but everyone I've ever known pretty much wants the same things. Choices. Good job. Good pay with a way to move up the ladder and be proud of what they accomplish. Right now, our farmers and teachers, police, nurse's and doctors aren't as important as our stupid politicians.

I think politicians should make minimum wage and our educators and protectors should be paid the most.

Some people do have extremely different opinions though.

I don't think either party should listen to their extremists. I guess I thought everyone agreed but they don't.

Most parties agree with extremists

I don't disagree with you on that but the extremists are never the majority. They are just better at making the "news" because the "news" is all about keeping everyone in fear. Imagine if we didn't fear each other so much.

The question is...Who would lose the most if Dems and Repubs worked together?

That’s a very good question. And I do agree that the news is just a tool of fear nowadays.

Not fighting. It's not fighting. It's different points of view working together. What's happening now is one party is trying to take over. It can't work that way with three hundred million different perspectives. It's bad enough there's only two choices.

Most of us don't disagree on much. I think, I'm not sure (which scares me), most Republicans don't want all this fighting and lying. Both sides are guilty.

In the end it gets worse or it gets better. All we can do is what we think is best.

Well there will always be fighting between 2 parties in our government. No matter what we replace them with

I don't think they do either. If they did they wouldn't want it.

Exactly cause that means America’s collapse and other countries taking over.

Exactly cause that means America’s collapse and other countries taking over.

No one wins a civil war?? Tell that to the North and all the freed slaves then...

But one had the lowest approval rating because of consistent smear campaigns by main stream media. The other and current president has a lowest approval rating despite the MSM running smoke screens.

I'm sorry but I have to laugh at that. I tried to find a site that wouldn't seem anti Trump to link you to but I just don't have time to read them all. Go look at the Thomas Jefferson and John Adams feud. Now THAT'S some good propaganda! Trump has always put himself in the "news". He's a celebrity, not a politician. I thought that was part of what you guys liked about him. He's been doing all of this on purpose. Remember when Republicans attacked Michelle Obama for suggesting people drink more water or when president Obama was attacked for wearing a tan suit?

Trump's not being attacked more than any other president just because he says he is. Negative attention is still attention.

You can't be serious.... Trump literally was nominated for 3 Nobel peace prizes and the MSM buried the story.... But focused hard on Melania wearing high heels to a disaster.

Trump suggested the people that nominated him nominate him. He wasn't nominated by anyone he didn't influence the nomination out of.

Don't you read ANY transcripts?

Of course people who get nominated by the influencing the people.... They do good for those people, then in return - those people can and do nominate them for the prize.

It was for brokering peace agreements... Being the middle man when no one else was willing to do so.

That's not how it works. Your life's work gets you nominated. You don't ask someone to nominate you.

There's no rule that says you can't ask to be nominated. It's called quid pro quo.

Maybe but who do you have more respect for? The guy that earned it or the guy that has to tell people he thinks he's earned it?

Also - it took 2 years for CNN to put a bad article on Biden out.... CNN was pushing Trump smear while he was still trying to get the Republican nod.

Oh, you know that's not true. That's not even statistically possible. All media shows Trump and Biden speaking for themselves. Stop listening to the commentary and just listen to the candidates themselves.

Actually it is... NPR did an entire story on how MSM was way more negative about trump.

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555092743/study-news-coverage-of-trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents

NPR. National Public Radio. Surely you're not suggesting they're not biased but ALL the others are?

Look. You're going to believe what you believe. I'm not going to try and change your mind but I'll have a response to everything you say just like you'll have a response for everything I say. The programming is complete. That's why I keep saying we need to get rid of both of the parties that are diving us and get some people in OUR government that'll bring us back together. Trump sees division. Biden sleeps.

We can do better than these two men.

No they aren't... They are publically funded ... By the public. It's one of the only non-binary news organizations out there. They also reported the great things Obama did, the good things Clinton did, the good things Bush did...

So you been told. You know what else is funded by the public? Our government.

I've said this too many times. "News" is not News anymore. Obama? Clinton? How many decades do you want to go back for?

This IS where we are. There is no such thing as "news".

You still believe there are people out there without their own agenda. Those people never did exist. They're folktales.

Tell me something about Trump without pushing any kind of an agenda. You won't be able to do it.

When you're debating... Agenda is part of your stance as well as it is the other person's. Right now your agenda is to point out that either side has sucked and we shouldn't be partisan.

Where as my agenda is that one sucked less than the other.

If Trump and Biden go against each other again, or if Trump goes against someone else or Biden goes against someone else, what's the best outcome for you AND for me? You'll be miserable if Biden wins again. So will I but half of the country will be miserable if Trump wins.

Stay divided or compromise?

It doesn't work. They'll both run and we'll both be going through this nightmare for years to come. Caring about "We, the people" has never been out governments strong suit.

So do we fight or compromise?

What would you suggest we do after both parties are removed?

Step back. Look at who you're fighting over. Two extraordinarily old guys, held together by tape and glue, whose "hay days" were FIFTY YEARS AGO!

It's time to stop this utter nonsense.

What pos do you think the 2 parties will put up in 2024?

Al Gore Clinton ticket... Trump and....Ted Cruz?