Work for the capitalists, work for murica!

Considering that the largest unions in America are all public servant unions or industries that are highly subsidized by the government, your meme is shit tier.

The fact that there are many real criticisms of unions in America doesn't invalidate the right of workers to unionized.

There is no law against the unionization of workers in private businesses. There are actually laws protecting unions, for instance the right to have union meetings after work hours without the threat of retaliation by the employer.

The problem is unions do not look out for the individual worker, they only serve to increase the power and profit of the union management.

I have worked for unions, they suck. You have to pay monthly dues and go to mandatory meetings that just end up as gripe sessions. Unions didn’t get me raises I worked for because the unions set up pay scales in their collective bargaining agreements that locked workers into fixed wage brackets. If you were a crappy worker you got paid the same as an excellent worker. This is one of the fundamental problems with unions.

These problems get increasingly worse when they get involved with government labor. The amount of entitlement up and down all levels of government is astounding. I once had a guy on a military installation tell me that he didn’t do physical labor when he was delivering furniture to my housing on base. I told him really? You are in charge of furniture but you don’t lift it? He copped an attitude but eventually agreed to helping me unload the furniture because I was at risk of dropping it and injuring myself because he was a lazy and entitled. I have endless stories like this because I have worked at all levels of government. It’s a total mess because you basically have to take someone to court to fire them from a government job. Why? Because of unions.

Furthermore, the reason why unions exist almost exclusively in government and government subsidized industries is exactly why you would think they do, government money supports the existence of the union and high wages regardless of profit. If they run out of funding they can just get a bigger budget next year. All of this at the expense of the tax payer. Not to mention all the unfunded pension liabilities that the government owns in the form of debt.

I’m not against being given the wage you earn. I’m not a against being treated with dignity at work. I’m not against having a good place to work where you feel appreciated. But being a competitive, effective, productive employee should be the standard for everyone government or private.

There are benefits and drawbacks to all systems. Unions sound like a good idea in theory but in practice they are just another leach that sucks profits and wages.

Are there laws protecting unions? Technically, yes. But as we have learned in recent years, and since the book “Confessions of a Union Buster”, we know the larger firms where workers really want to unionize are prepared to stop unionizing campaigns in their tracks and hire some of the biggest union busting firms to do so. Workers have been persecuted or fired by the boss for trying to unionize, and employers do not face legal consequences for this. Even after the union wins an election, the boss can single out union employees and fire them ultimately again without consequences. Amazon trains their management to look out for potential unionizing activity.

Also, the private sector used to be much more unionized, but it has been reduced by half since Reagan fired the striking Air Traffic Controllers. In the 90s a majority of US factories threatened to fire their workers or close the shop if they attempted to unionize. Reagan and the Republicans strengthened the employers against unions. Republicans in recent years have been continuing the neoliberal agenda to empower the corporate class, passing ALEC inspired legislation in their respective states to attack unions and create an environment more suitable for the employing class (which has not reversed the trend of closing manufacturing plants and shipping jobs overseas).

I think you are exaggerating the generosity of government job remuneration. There is a labor shortage in the public sector too, especially with Department of Corrections jobs (at least where I live). They are working 16 hour shifts currently.

The problem with being given the “wage you earn” is that capitalists never return to you the full value you produce for them. You will always be provided a substandard wage (even while they are enjoying record profits, like now). Wages have gone down over time but prices have gone up (and productivity has gone up too, where’s that pay increase?) And as you just demonstrated, unions help increase wages for the working class.

There is some truth in the averageness and unhelpfulness of a typical business union. They surrender power to the boss and make concessions too often. I’m a member of the Industrial Workers of the World, my monthly dues are just $11 and I’m happy to know that my money is going toward other unionizing campaigns, giving money to our prisoners union so they can be setup with a life on the outside or fight for their rights while they’re on the inside.

Don't forget unions being in bed with the mob like the Teamsters. When employees get a pay raise, their union dues will go up. When I was taking business classes, we covered unions. The teacher did a lecture with a slide show showing union leaders. After the lecture the teacher asked us if we had any questions. I raised my hand and asked, "How much did the suits the union leaders wear in those photos cost? And did they pay with their own money or with union money?"

Oh, before I forget, here's another complaint I have about public ones - Not only do employees in the private sector have to pay for their own union dues but also the union dues for public employees(tax money).

Jimmy Hoffa hasn’t been president of the Teamsters since the 70s. Lmfao all you cons live in the freakin past.

SAG and the Federation of Professional Athletes are public service?