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first of all i dont think kuwata has very much reason of being banned. all ive heard is that he asked for porn of peoples OCs. now i understand that is inapropriate, but i don't see that as a solid reason to ban someone forever. he is just a horny teenager that said and did the wrong thing. but don't you think we should forgive him?

He’s told people to kill themselves

He’s fakes self harm

I have proof

dont we all? I do too

kedrei, do you believe in change?

i do, and i think he has changed, but the only way we can find out is if we let him come back. if he continues the behavior he had before, then we will just ban him again.

how does that sound to you?

He is still showing no signs of change

He’s on discord and in a few servers that I’m in

He says it’s an opinion and he still does the same things

waht is his discord

Uh

I can think of more reasons

then, please feel free to share your opinion

1. He's posted uncensored yiff and hentai on multiple occasions. Which breaks 2 different rules

2. What Cloud said

well if he posted uncensored stuff, who approved it? who allowed it to go into the stream? are we going to blame this on him or the person who allowed it?
and also when i am disapproving porn in memes overload, i dont ban someone forever, i give them a few warnings, each time banning them from posting a little longer.
banning kuwata forever would be a little harsh wouldnt it?

He approved it.

So yeah we'll blame him for it

And he's already have had a lot of warnings about it

So it's not that harsh

do i have permission to unban him? and continue to unban him if someone bans him for the same old reasons and not for something that he has just recently done?

Sure

how was he warned? was he given temporary bans?

and even if so, then what if we allowed him to come back and prove himself that he has changed into a better person? what if he has finally learned his lesson? we will never know until we let him come back

Well no he didn't get banned. Cause bans weren't a thing when he did most of it.

Well good point. But what if he didn't change and posts yiff again.

if he didn't change then you have every reason to ban him again.

so what do you say? give him another chance?

Sure I'll give him another chance

But if he hasn't changed I'll ban him again

Oh no, he didn't only do that.
He faked self harm and faked suicide multiple times and always blamed them on Kedrei

so what if he faked suicide? perhaps that was his way of saying he needed help? and all we are going to is keep him banned?

Faking suicide is one of the rules in MSMG, which he broke multiple times. No Suicide posts are allowed. WHICH HE DID

don't you think we should give him another chance? are we going to be stuck in the past or can we move forward and allow him to move forward instead of continually being ashamed of his actions?

We already gave him a lot of chances

what if we gave him one more? what damage is it going to do if we unban him? its not like we have to give him mod and be best friends with him, we just have to allow him to change.

No.
We've given him enough chances. End of the story.

are you an owner? is this your decision? this image is for owners of msmg and myself to comment on ONLY.

We have given him MULTIPLE.

how will we know he has actually changed this time?

Im just telling you now. I've tried giving him chances, letting him change, he's gonna do it again. But by all means, go ahead, and see what happens. Im just gonna tell you, someone is gonna ban him again. Trust me. I see it happning.

Exactly
He even faked self harming and blamed Kedrei for it

No, he just wanted attention, but he doesn't really need help. And are you going to ignore the fact that he faked self harming and blamed the "self harming" on an innocent person

people change. they progress. if man didnt change we would be stuck in the past. are we going to be stuck in the past, or can we move forward and allow him to move forward with us?

It's been 6 months and he didn't change

It’s been one year and they didn’t change

Indeed

Yeah
Imagine blaming Kedrei for something you’re consciously doing just because you were banned on a meme website
I saw Danny’s leaked DM’s and knew that it shouldn’t go unnoticed by Kedrei, so I DM’ed him the link to Danny’s leaked DM’s to Kuwata

No way you actually did that 😳😱🤯

well ye-

Ah so that was the reason

so do you think he should be unbanned

Yeah

do i have permission to unban him? and continue to unban him if someone bans him for the same old reasons and not for something that he has just recently done?

Nope definitely not

why did you change your mind?

Wot I never existed

It was not. He also faked suicide and self harm and blamed it on kedrei

Actually-
You're kinda right!
I agree with Unbanning him but Im gonna wait until Other Owners agree to do anything

Reminder, he faked suicide, and tried to blame it on Kedrei. He posted suicide posts, MULTIPLE TIMES< WHICH IS A F**KING RULE!

do i have permission to unban him? and continue to unban him if someone bans him for the same old reasons and not for something that he has just recently done?

He also repeatedly posted porn in this stream, for minors and like bruuuuu that’s legit illegal to show minors porn