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He's one guy. Even so, context matters. He said that he was alarmist, not that it isn't happening. We all know that the most cataclysmic predictions haven't happened. So, to the degree that people exaggerated a bit to sell books, yes, they were wrong. In science, that means you go back to the models, check your inputs and see if you can figure out what went wrong.

Asked if he was now a climate skeptic, Lovelock told msnbc.com: “It depends what you mean by a skeptic. I’m not a denier.”

He said human-caused carbon dioxide emissions were driving an increase in the global temperature, but added that the effect of the oceans was not well enough understood and could have a key role.

“It (the sea) could make all the difference between a hot age and an ice age,” he said.

He said he still thought that climate change was happening, but that its effects would be felt farther in the future than he previously thought.

“We will have global warming, but it’s been deferred a bit,” Lovelock said.
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I did not bother reading the rest that was not shown.....but you wrote this..."He said human-caused carbon dioxide emissions were driving an increase in the global temperature..."
He also said this...'[The temperature] has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising - carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that.'
He also said this...."Five years ago, he had claimed: 'Before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.".....and this about that statement....."But in an interview with msnbc.com, he admitted: 'I made a mistake.'............and this is what the article had concluded....The admission comes as a devastating blow to proponents of climate change who regard Lovelock as a powerful figurehead.

You can continue to comment as you wish but this is my last response to you!....I have already explained that we are still in an Ice Age but an Interglacial period of that Ice Age....where the Earth warms up during this time (these periods last roughly between 30,000 to 100,000 years)....and we are further affected because we are also warming up from the Mini Ice Age that had ended in 1850....
Best Wishes with your lunacy......
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Oh you explained to me! Thanks professor. /S

Yes, he said it was slower than his initial estimates but still increasing. He's one guy and him saying he and other more extreme prognosticators were wrong doesn't mean the science behind it is wrong. He was wrong about the speed it is happening. Most climate models show a gradual change. I don't know if he was just selling books or believed, but many of the climate models have been extremely predictive. When a model doesn't work we refine it. When the weather man gets the weather wrong we don't dismiss meteorology out of hand.

Interglacials last for thousands of years. You try to distract with that stuff but no matter what point in the natural cycle we are in, ice ages are caused by slow changes in the Earth's orbit. The relatively fast change that we are currently experiencing are unprecedented and aren't explained by that.
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Math | TH EARTH HAS BEEN WARMING SINCE THE ICE SHEETS BEGAN TO MELT | image tagged in math | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
18,000 years ago the last ice advance, stopped and began to melt. What was the cause of that warming?
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I do believe that. Question is: is that what's happening?
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Being told to believe or be considered a bad person is not evidence. It's the Left's standard argument: "agree or be dragged"
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We've moved on. The earth is round, evolution exists, the climate is changing. We could have real conversations about what to do about it, but instead people spread contradictory misinformation.

I just found out while looking today that the name for the strategy is Firehose of falsehood, it firehosing.

"The characteristics that distinguish this technique from Soviet Cold-War era propaganda techniques are a large number of messages and channels, and a "shameless" approach to disseminating falsehoods and contradictory messages. The immediate aim is to entertain, confuse, and overwhelm the audience. The "firehose" takes advantage of modern technology, such as the Internet and social media, and recent changes in the way people produce and consume news.[1]

The high volume of messages and the use of multiple channels are effective because people are more likely to believe a story when it appears to have been reported by multiple sources.[1] In addition to the recognizably Russian news source, RT, for example, Russia disseminates propaganda using dozens of proxy websites whose connection to RT is "disguised or downplayed."[7] People are also more likely to believe a story when they think many others believe it, especially if those others belong to a group with which they identify. Thus, an army of trolls can influence a person's opinion by creating the false impression that a majority of that person's neighbors support a given view."
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There are a lot of questions about that "evidence". Do you recall the questions about how the IPCC was gathering it's temperature data? A large number of sensors were installed in or around asphalt parking areas, which are going to register a much warmer temperature. The UN has never responded to queries about that.
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So 18,000 years ago or thereabouts was the end of the last glacial advance. The Earth has been warming since. How do you know, even including any additions by human beings, that this warming is not a natural process at it's foundation? It's been a natural process for 18,000 years.
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The planet isn't warming and the climate change blackmail narrative is collapsing nicely.
Have a nice day, Leftards.
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Yes! You FUC@ING senile decrepit old lunatic....But you still have not gotten it....or are loathe to admit the truth....and that is CO2 is just great plant food....and it has very little to do...if anything at all....with warming the planet!
We are in an Interglacial Period of an Ice Age (And YES! We are in an Ice Age....the Ice Age NEVER ended as frequently and erroneously reported by the lunatic liberal media....IGNORANT ASSES!).

In Interglacial Periods the planet warms out. But even in interglacial Periods....there are brief periods of fast-rising temperature and brief cooling periods such as the Little Ice Age from 1300 to 1850 CE. So not only are we warming out from being in this Interglacial Period but it is further compounded by the Earth also warming out from The Little Ice Age.
It must be noted that while the Little Ice Age had generally ended in most of the world in 1850....Its effect was not noted in the North Pole and Antarctica until in the 1920s....and continues to this day. Where the North Pole was once stood great forests....about that there is no doubt!
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You are without any doubt, a FUC@ING idiot! Do you mean all of that incredibly microscopic 0.04% of CO2 that makes up the atmosphere is causing this warming....or climate change...or whatever the FUC@ you guys come up from day to day as your lunatic minds wander (and there has been NO increase in temperature over the past 20 years....it had been stable)? And of that minuscule 0.04%, a massive 97% is from natural emission....and only 3% is put up there by man...Or just 0.0012% of the CO2 that is in the atmosphere?
You would have to be a bloody lunatic to believe that an additional 0.0012% of CO2, added to atmospheric CO2, to make a final tally of a microscopic 0.04% is causing climate change?
Like really!!!!!!!!.
Especially when CO2 was over 3000-9000 PPM, or more, in the past and dinosaurs (sure you are not a dinosaur....you just think and act like FUC@ING one) more than 80 times the size of an average man had lumbered around happily....eating from vast forests of mammoth-sized plants!
As an aside....submariners can tolerate up to 11,000 PPM of CO2 under the sea for months at a time with ZERO side effects.
You can respond as you wish...one reply to an idiot like you is enough for a month for me....but I will NOT be reading your reply! Have fun!
FUC@ING IDIOT!
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Key word, could be. Climate models obviously have variable inputs. Some of those models likely didn't include green power, cleaner fossil fuel plants, and some of the preventatives we've implemented. So yes, if you assume worst case, everyone with an SUV and no standards on emissions, things could be different.
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