If It Is So Good, Why Does It Have To Be MANDATED?

VAERS is normally reported at the doctors discretion. That is, only if they think it was the vaccine During the emergency authorization phase doctors were required to report all deaths without discretion. Got the vaccine then killed yourself? Still reported. This is so patterns might be spotted in case the vaccine causes suicidal thoughts, for instance. So no, not worried.

Taiwan has had fewer than .01% of people catch COVID. They have less than 900 COVID deaths and less than 900 vaccine related deaths reported after millions have been vaccinated. 20% are fully vaccinated and over 60% have had the first dose.

I imagine the European adverse reaction system of similar to VAERS in civic vaccine tracking - the numbers aren't actually thought to be that high.

British - 79% of people over 12 are fully vaccinated. So it isn't a higher chance of getting it - there are more vaccinated people to get it. If you took 100 people and vaccinated 79 of them, and then the vaccinated had double the number sick - that could be 2 and 4 (for example). That would mean out of 79 people 4 were sick and out of 21 people 2 were sick. Clearly fewer vaccinated are getting sick as a percentage of the population. Since you would need the rate to be 4x in vaccinated to even make it even.

Just look at all the deaths reported for the Covid Vaccines (top chart) and that should be enough of a warning for the average person. Add in that Taiwan had more deaths from the vaccine than for Covid itself. Would that encourage you to defend the vaccine or be wary of it, Sleeping_d? In your case, defend it! Here is a good source of information....

All you need to know about Covid vaccine safety
https://www.skirsch.com/covid/All.pdf

Already read into both of those. No need for a source.

Taiwan - that's sort of true. But only because due to Taiwan being hit hard by SARS they were better prepared, or perhaps took it more seriously. Less than .01% of people in Taiwan have tested positive for COVID. They have 16,337 cases and 846 COVID deaths.

They have administered over 20,000,000 doses of the vaccine. Over 60% have had their first dose and over 20% have had both doses. Possible vaccine deaths: 865.

VAERS has higher numbers for COVID due to stricter reporting requirements for a vaccine under emergence authorization.

Usually doctors report vaccine deaths or adverse events at their discretion. If they give a flu shot and the patient dies the next day, the doctor gets to decide if it was related. However the emergency authorization by the FDA requires that all adverse events be reported regardless of cause. This let's then look for patterns that aren't obvious at first glance. If a large number of people die of car accidents after, then maybe their is something there. Most of those VAERS cases have been concluded to be unrelated to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Taiwan is also tracking their vaccine deaths in similar fashion and so those cases are also high, thus the 'sort of'.

Remember, we stopped giving the swine flu vaccine after 50 people died. If there are stricter reporting requirements and there are over 16,000 deaths and hundreds of thousands of adverse reactions, they should be pulled off the market immediately. The fact that so many people are getting sick with double vaccinations and now are in need of booster shots should tell you that the vaccines are not working.

The CDC and the FDA are in bed with Big Pharma. Look at the numbers of senior government officials who get high paying jobs when they leave government service. Follow the money.. ..

Lol, 16,000 deaths if you look at openVAERS, which isn't limited to the US.

Yes government is in bed with big business. They always have been. It was true when Trump wanted to build a wall and when we spent 12 billion on operation warp speed. I'm not saying dune be suspicious, but also be aware that this is reality.

Pricing is actually pretty low in the US. Of course, the government funded the research so it should be. The companies have generally committed to keeping prices down during the pandemic and prices are similar to the cost of a flu vaccine. After the pandemic... We'll see.

I don't actually recall swine flu vaccine deaths. When was this?

Back in 1976, 50 lives were important. I lived through it, perhaps you weren't born. Today, 16,000 doesn't mean squat and not to mention 27,000 in Europe.

Nope, slightly before my time.

The swine flu in 1976 resulted in one death and 13 hospitalizations.

One quarter of the US was vaccinated and as you say, less than 50 deaths. As such, the vaccine rollout was stopped. It didn't make sense to continue.

And honestly, 16,000 deaths (which is exaggerated, but we'll go with it) is les than the number of people who will die without the vaccine.

"In people unvaccinated, they were 5 times more likely to become infected, 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, and over 10 times more likely to die from COVID-19."

As far as deaths...684 COVID deaths were reported yesterday. In 30 days, that would be over 16,000 deaths. I really don't understand how you can only look at one side of the equation.

Most of the deaths are actually from vaccinated people. Remember Colin Powell and Hank Aaron? They were fully vaccinated. Young healthy people are dying from the vaccine (people who would otherwise probably survive Covid. Now they are pushing to do it to young children, 5-year-olds, which is a crime against humanity as children survive Covid better than anybody and often with little or no symptoms. At this point, they know nothing about long-term effects of the vaccines. Wake up and smell the covfefe...

The long term effects of the vaccine. Don't you trust that your immune system can handle a little vaccine? /s

Less likely doesn't mean you are immune or that there won't be people dying of it even with the vaccine.

Evidence. There are right leaning media outlets. Why aren't they going out and doing some investigative journalism to prove what you are saying is true? Is it possible that some of the people who died from complications would have survived having COVID? Maybe, but its far more likely that these were people whose immune systems wouldn't have been able to handle COVID either.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/unvaccinated-people-more-likely-die-covid-report

not fully vaccinated individuals are 4.5 times more likely to get infected (89.1 per 100,000 vs .19.4), 10 times more likely to be hospitalized (7.0 per 100,000 vs .7) and 11 times more likely to die (1.1 per 100,000 vs .1) from the delta variant.

All I had to see was "CDC study"....
Fabulous Fauci has been ignoring acquired immunity.... who does that? Someone with an agenda. There are a lot of Doctors and nurses on record telling the truth of the dangers of the jab. You just have to look. And when you look, ask yourself who has to gain from their comments and opinions and who has everything to lose. You'd think someone would take Steve Kirsch up on his 2M dollars....🤔🙂

Nobody is ignoring acquired immunity. The issue is that ~2% of people die acquiring immunity.

Studies have shown that the vaccine produces longer lasting immunity. But you don't trust studies that tell you what you don't want to hear. That's cool.

A lot of doctors and nurses - no, not really. There are doctors against it, sure. There are also doctors who smoke, and doctors who don't believe in germ theory, etc. While it is dangerous to simply trust the majority, you have to trust someone. Maybe some of these anti-vaccine people have valid concerns, but unfortunately they are currently in a 'boy who cried wolf' position. There is so much fake information and attempts to discredit vaccines and masks that are clearly fake that they end up getting associated with the nuts.

Its what happens when you fall prey to confirmation bias and are willing to believe anything that talks bad about those things. You end up putting out conflicting statements - masks are bad because the holes are too big. Masks are bad because children can't get enough air. Those magic masks that can't stop a virus but are too constrictive to allow air flow.

A local hospital near where some of my family lives puts out daily COVID numbers including the vaccination status. Its a small town in Tennessee, and do you know what the numbers show? Most cases are the unvaccinated. Last daily numbers for hospitalized patients: 3 vaccinated, 13 not vaccinated, 2 unknown status.

Luckily they haven't had a COVID death since the 13th. But so far this month they've had 14 deaths: 3 vaccinated; 3 unknown; 8 unvaccinated.

Steve Kirsch offer - how would one go about taking him up on that offer?