Christian logic — there’s nothing else like it.

Fearing in that context is not the same as we see it today.

"Fearing" is more like submission. You listen to God, you obey Him, you show respect. I obey my dad, I respect him, does that mean I need a relationship counselor?

“Fearing God means both bowing in utter reverence and respect before the One who created the world and all things in it and cowering on trembling knees at the prospect that He could if He so chose, destroy us all in a moment.” According to Christianity.com

That’s really bad that you should have to fear your own god. It means it’s a coercive relationship where you have no choice but to worship him, or you will suffer an eternity in hell as a result of you don’t, or could be smited by him just for pissing him off. That’s slavery, dude. Your religion is crazy and it was obviously designed to convert as many people as possible, including using the psychological fear of hell as a recruiting tool.

You seem to forget that I don't agree with most modern biblical scholars. You really need to get that drilled into your 10 inch thick skull.

You know you're not perfect, right? Unless you're a narcissist, that's just plain obvious. You've done bad things, admit it. Well, God says that your bad things are really REALLY bad (and without God, there is no objective standard of what is good and bad, making everything neither good nor bad, so if God is real, and He created everything, how would your standard of good be better than His). And if He's just, how can He let bad things go unpunished? If someone commits a murder, it wouldn't make sense to let them just go free.

But remember: He's just. He gives you a choice: give Him loyalty, and put in as much effort as you can to stop doing these things, and you're free. Continue without Him, without His help, and your punishment remains.

It's not slavery. If it was, we'd be slaves to the government. Slaves to courts. Slaves to the world. Parole would be the most morally abhorrent thing of all. If you follow the law, are you a slave? I certainly don't think so.

Numerous problems, number one: if your god was actually worthy of worship, he wouldn't demand it. He wouldn't even want to be worshiped. But instead, you go to hell if you don't accept his salvation.

You say that murder is so bad, when your own god allegedly murdered the entire human and animal population save Noah's family and the animals on the ark, plus ordered different people to kill others. God is a misogynist who makes women subservient to their husbands and curses them with pain in childbearing because Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. This is what you call an objective moral standard? It gets worse. Your god permits men to brutalize and attack their slaves so long as the slave doesn't die as a result. Your argument is such a joke. God doesn't exist in anyone's life, besides the really delusional people who claim to interact with him, and we still have a sense of right and wrong. Why is it not objective? Because cultures disagree on what is acceptable and what is not. Even still, there is a noticeable sense of some objective right and wrong but difference is interpretation and what follows that. I'm not a proponent of cultural relativism, it is just that some cultures are inherently backwards, usually because of superstition and religion and therefore abuse, torture and murder people.

Your comparison to the U.S. criminal system only makes sense if it is wrong to not worship god, and I argue that it is only morally correct. Your god is undeserving, he's a tyrant and religion is poisonous and enslaves minds.

Again, if God exists, and He is all knowing, how the hell do you expect your morals and humanity's morals to be above His.

Also, tyrants attack and abuse everyone, including those who follow them. God doesn't do this.

God punishes what He defines as evil. Whether or not you like that, that's what happens.

Now, I'm f**king done addressing your comments until you actually do some research on the bible. You need to look at a point of view besides your own to understand. Everything you search for against the bible? Look at counterarguments and explanations by Christians. Then maybe you won't be using the very hatred and bigotry which you want to end.

Good day to you sir.

Do you value free speech and free thought? Could we both agree these are basic human rights that should be respected? Your god respects neither, and if that is true, you’re making your own case for why your god doesn’t exist because he requires omniscience in order to exist.

Really? Is that the case? If you regard Stalin and his successors as tyrants, ‘blat’ was a common practice in the USSR where those with ties to people in the Communist Party were rewarded with luxuries. Not sure when Hitler or Mussolini attacked those loyal to them. They both murdered communists and anarchists and trade unionists.

The fact that punishment is a concept at all in your religion shows it is a farce, because humans can and have done better. Even some of the most reprehensible crimes like murder have been responded to with compassion, and these murderers join the family of the victim. Those murderers would have been thrown in hell by your god, when society did better and rehabilitated them and accepted them. It should bother you that your god wants to punish anyone. No loving god would do that.

The explanations Christians come up with are delusional and not worth my time. There’s tens of thousands of different denominations in Christianity and tons of different answers that all contradict one another, so what the hell’s the point? That’ll be my last point, if your god really exists, why did he transmit his message in the absolute worst way possible, where nobody can agree how to interpret it, with mere fragments of the original copies of the gospels and both the Old Testament and the New Testament being subject to countless mistranslations and revisions over time?

If you have done your research, most people were reliant on oral tradition. In fact, some didn't even know how to read or write. The texts we see from that time period were written by the upper class. Did Jesus preach to the upper class? Yes. What did the upper class think? We don't have time for this kind of guy or we need to get rid of this guy he is causing me to lose power or whatsoever. This is why Jesus preached to the lower and middle classes. Luke 14: 16-23 proves my point,
"16 Jesus replied: “A certain man was preparing a great banquet and invited many guests. 17 At the time of the banquet he sent his servant to tell those who had been invited, ‘Come, for everything is now ready.’

18 “But they all alike began to make excuses. The first said, ‘I have just bought a field, and I must go and see it. Please excuse me.’
19 “Another said, ‘I have just bought five yoke of oxen, and I’m on my way to try them out. Please excuse me.’
20 “Still another said, ‘I just got married, so I can’t come.’
21 “The servant came back and reported this to his master. Then the owner of the house became angry and ordered his servant, ‘Go out quickly into the streets and alleys of the town and bring in the poor, the crippled, the blind and the lame.’
22 “‘Sir,’ the servant said, ‘what you ordered has been done, but there is still room.’
23 “Then the master told his servant, ‘Go out to the roads and country lanes and compel them to come in, so that my house will be full. "

This would explain why, in your words, God "transmit[ted] his message in the absolute worst way possible, where nobody can agree how to interpret it."
You also claimed, "both the Old Testament and the New Testament being subject to countless mistranslations and revisions over time". The reason for the countless translations is not because Christians changed the text, it was either to adapt to the language or make it easier to understand/ easier for a certain audience to understand. This makes your claim false.

In addition, God wants people to come to believe based on their faith. He wants it to be an emotional process. If there was tons of evidence then everyone would believe based on the facts and not because they had a revelation in their hearts that Jesus is indeed real. If he had allowed evidence to leak out, he would not have as strong of a relationship with his followers. This would also take out the faith portion of Christianity.

I'm not sure how your quoting the gospels in any way addresses the problem of instruction.

It is incorrect to suggest Christians didn't change the texts, the texts have been changed countless times over the years to fit peoples' own personal values and beliefs, but from my understanding the gospels in circulation today are mostly true to the original text. Still, there are many ways to interpret words from Greek and Hebrew and there has been numerous debates over the true meaning of different parts of the texts. And still, the reality of tens of thousands of different Christian denominations suggests it is still not easier for audiences to understand the Bible.

Your god clearly isn't a just one if he offers no evidence of his existence and thinks people should go through some spiritual journey before finding him and being spared eternal hell. He said himself, "many will be called, few will be chosen." Not much of an all-loving god if you ask me.

So now your tapping into emotions, before it was all science. Im just gonna go ahead and say that you clearly have not read the Bible. I think you have read parts of it, but just the parts you want to read. You obviously do not understand God or the concept of being saved. Im sorry, but you are clearly uneducated.

Didn't I tell you to do some research?