"With Stunning Regularity, Liberals And Progressives Are Willing To Participate In Their Own Oppression"

The very essence of Conservatism is maximum control of society down to the individual in order to effect and preserve a cultural standard and norms of which wavering from would not be an option. Hence the appeal of top heavy centralized governance dictating how to live and the enforcement of such to them, that in turn being helmed by narcissists.

The very definition of Liberalism is liberty from such archaic restrictions on the individual not wishing or otherwiise unable to fit the mold.

The very purpose of Leftists is to disrupt the status quo which seeks to chain the populance to allegiance and conformity without exception.

As usual you got it all backwards.

Wikipedia: "Liberal democracy, also referred to as Western democracy, is the combination of a liberal political ideology that operates under a democratic form of government. It is characterised by elections between multiple distinct political parties, a separation of powers into different branches of government, the rule of law in everyday life as part of an open society, a market economy with private property, and the equal protection of human rights, civil rights, civil liberties and political freedoms for all people... Liberal democracy traces its origins—and its name—to the European 18th-century, also known as the Age of Enlightenment. At the time, the vast majority of European states were monarchies, with political power held either by the monarch or the aristocracy."

Without exception, America's "Founding Fathers" were rooted in the philosophy of The European Enlightment.

Useful links:
Liberal Democracy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy
The European Enlightenment and The Founding Fathers: https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/colonial-america/colonial-north-america/a/the-enlightenment

So what I said then, except mine was off the top of my head?

In a sentence, "Liberals seek the liberation of people by liberating them."

Spot on.

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Where does the Texas abortion law fit into your scheme?

The left has done a very very very good job of convincing themselves they aren't killing babies. So much so they think that only woman is involved.

As much as you want to deny it abortion kills human life. So it depends on if you want to continue to deny that fact or realize it. Texas realized that Roe v Wade sanctions infanticide so they put strict limits on it.

I do not deny that abortion kills human life.

Rather, there's a boatload of evidence that countries which ban abortion end up with HIGHER abortion rates.

I realize you need for issues to be black and white.

But they seldom are.

"So Banning Guns Won't Prevent Gun Violence But Banning Abortion Prevents Abortion"https://newsfrombarbaria.blogspot.com/2020/08/reprise-so-banning-guns-wont-prevent.html 

Abortion, And The Indispensable Distinction Between "Pro-Life" And "Pro-Birth"https://newsfrombarbaria.blogspot.com/2021/04/compendium-of-pax-barbaria-posts-about.html

"Prohibition And Abortion"https://newsfrombarbaria.blogspot.com/2020/12/prohibition-and-abortion.html

"Rather, there's a boatload of evidence that countries which ban abortion end up with HIGHER abortion rates."

Shouldn't you have said there is a "...boatload of blogs who have opinions...".

You can have opinions until the cows come home but you opinions should at least be logical. It is illogical that if abortions are illegal that it would cause more abortions.

What are a bunch more woman all of the sudden decide to kill their babies now that it is illegal? What would the motivation be?

My college history professor when he covered the days of prohibition said that for the most part prohibition worked. People stopped drinking. Yes, this was a shock to me also because all my life it had always heard that the reason why it was repealed is because it was a colossal failure. Apparently the only reason why it was repealed is because it adversely affected politicians. Which is the biggest motivators for Congress to do anything. That is why most of time they exempt themselves from laws that would adversely affect them. They're exempt from getting the vaccine.

So if prohibition was mostly successful then what makes you think more, not less, women will abort their babies? Especially when the doctors who would perform those abortions would also be doing it illegally and their is no way of knowing if they are quacks or not.

Besides, this is just in the state of Texas. Women who want to murder their babies have 49 other states they can off their kid.

Plus Texas's does not ban abortion. It empowers people to sue abortion clinics and doctors for aborting babies prior and up to 6 weeks. They can sue for up to $10,000.

I'm not sure where you find any gray area when it comes to human life. You either protect it or you don't.

If you want to make believe that you are not taking a human life when a woman is having their baby ripped out of their womb piece by piece then there is nothing I can do or say to stop you. Especially when you are basing your medical rationale on 50 year old medical knowledge. They didn't know the baby feels the pain of him or her getting pulled apart until more recently.