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Racists think they're so funny.. | MEANWHILE ON DARK_HUMOR... INTERESTING, SO COULD YOU SHOW ME ON A MAP WHERE DUMBFUCKISTAN IS, BEING THAT YOU'RE A NATIVE? | image tagged in memes,but that's none of my business | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
its...its called dark humor for a reason. thats the f**kin point. do you just go on there just to get mad???
0 ups, 3y
It would be dark humor if racists didn't use plausible deniability to tell racist jokes and spread their racist rhetoric. It'd be dark humor if they made fun of all races. Not just everyone but white folk. It's hate-speech. Racism. Pure and simple.
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0 ups, 3y
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1 up, 3y,
2 replies
lmao it is kinda funny
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
No, it kinda isn't.
1 up, 3y,
2 replies
bro, he made it as a joke. and that’s all it is, a joke, calm down
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Racism isn't a joke. I had to learn that the hard way. It isn't acceptable and shouldn't be unless you're a professional comedian.. Even then, it's questionable. Instead of attacking my stance, maybe you should ask why I hold this view.
0 ups, 3y,
2 replies
alright fine, why don’t you think this is funny?
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Number one: Plausible deniability:
You never can tell who is actually racist behind the keyboard and who isn't. If you see someone make humor at the expense of every race except their own, it's not humor. That's racism. Mel Brooks? Aziz Ansari? Gabriel Iglesias? They all make humor at the expense of their own race as well. They don't single out anyone. Of course, you shouldn't make light of this either and say "I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally." None of them said that. Ever. So, in conclusion on this point, someone could say "It's just a joke, I'm not really racist." But then, anyone could say that, couldn't they? Better to be on the safe side and "shun all appearances of evil." A quote from the bible the right wing loves to thump but fails to practice.

Number two: Gateway racism... rather, discriminatory humor (against women, homosexuals, people of color) is a gateway to leaning into these beliefs. I've seen it countless times that people claim they aren't the way they suggest. Yet, they become so comfortable with the humor, they forget to walk the line carefully and observe said line and they slip up.

Number three: When you make jokes at the expense of other races, you really don't know the impact you're having on them when you make these jokes. You can't know the impact as you aren't that race. You haven't lived every day of that race to understand what they go through.

If you really want a more educated and informed reflection on the matter, I highly encourage reading this:

https://theconversation.com/psychology-behind-the-unfunny-consequences-of-jokes-that-denigrate-63855

This website uses an example from Dave Chappelle when he said:

"I’m here at the Academy Awards, otherwise known as the White People’s Choice Awards. You realize if they nominated hosts, I wouldn’t even get this job. So y’all would be watching Neil Patrick Harris right now."

It eloquently and efficiently depicts what kind of humor is taking place when and where. It also references these jokes:

"Q: Why did the woman cross the road?

A: Who cares! What the hell is she doing out of the kitchen?

Q: Why hasn’t NASA sent a woman to the moon?

A: It doesn’t need cleaning yet!"

I'm not here to put people down for being racist or making racist jokes. But when people refuse to even consider the alternative, that's where the rub comes in. Dark Humor has a long history of racist jokes via plausible deniability. Often at the expense of everyone but straight white males.
2 ups, 3y,
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true, we don’t know someone’s true intent behind jokes like that and if they made to be directly racist, then i completely denounce it, but most likely it was made just for fun. and since you mentioned those comedians, you should listen to anthony jeselnik if you haven’t already. and btw, i’m atheist✌️

just because you make an offensive joke, doesn’t mean you believe in it. i laugh at and make offensive jokes regularly but i don’t really believe in it and that’s what makes it a joke

that’s true, and if that was a joke about slavery, kkk, segregation, etc, id agree with you on this joke, however it’s none of those things

and btw, i’m a feminist, but those kitchen/cleaning jokes are hilarious
0 ups, 3y,
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"just because you make an offensive joke, doesn’t mean you believe in it. i laugh at and make offensive jokes regularly but i don’t really believe in it and that’s what makes it a joke that’s true, and if that was a joke about slavery, kkk, segregation, etc, id agree with you on this joke, however it’s none of those things"
>> Yes it was, referring to someone as a N***er is a callback to slavery. Read about it here: https://www.etymonline.com/word/ni**er

"and btw, i’m a feminist, but those kitchen/cleaning jokes are hilarious"
>> So is my wife, and she doesn't like them. Just because one person says it's okay, doesn't mean they speak for that entire demographic. You set your social standards and etiquette for the most positive interaction.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
yes ik that words dates back to slavery but the joke isn’t about slavery

ok and that’s her opinion, just like how it’s my opinion that this joke is funny
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
The joke exists because of slavery.

It's fine that it's your opinion. But you don't speak on behalf of the entire demographic and as such are not the authority to say whether or not something is or isn't okay.
1 up, 3y
i’m not saying that something should or should zone ok is a black and white stance, i’m saying that i think it’s funny.

i see where you’re coming from though, and i used to think just like you, but i took a step back and i made it so i was able to discern the difference between a joke and a serious statement. and tbh, my life is quite a bit better.

and if this joke either said the n word or was directing it at a person, i’d feel very differently, but as far as i know, it’s a joke and that’s what i’m going to take it as
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Because trying to get the other person to use a racist slur is the grosser equivalent of pulling down your pants for a laugh.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
the word would technically be nigers so there’s no racial slur even there
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
I think there's a time to stop digging, and you're there.

Go find one of your Black friends and ask them about this joke . . . or would it be embarrassing? A wise Black young woman I know had a lot to say recently about how she NEVER wants to hear that word in a white person's mouth, how it makes her feel attacked and demeaned.

But be comforted. I hear that the nose-picking first grader thinks that meme is humor.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
i will, i’ll let you know what he says. and i get where’s she’s coming from, and i’d never say it, but because she said it doesn’t mean that all black people feel the same

and ralph wiggum is in 2nd grade btw
1 up, 3y,
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I yield to your greater knowledge of the Simpsons -- and Ralph is more developmentally delayed than I realized.
0 ups, 3y
lmao i had to look it up, but i did watch a good amount of it and it’s a good show. i do like family guy better though
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
If he could make a lame racist joke like that, maybe if he thought 5 minutes longer he could have made an actually funny one?
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
it was lame and a little racist, but it’s still funny. he isn’t hurting anyone by making the joke
0 ups, 3y,
2 replies
It was lame and a little racist, but no, not funny. He is hurting every person of color who comes onto that stream and gets the message that Imgflip is a safe space for racist slurs.

And, to the extent that it scares off so many people, that hurts all Imgflip users who are robbed of the jokes and content they might make.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
im a person of color and im not offened at all by this. I dont let things like this get under my skin like that. i find the humor in it so dont speak for us
1 up, 3y
Fair enough: I appreciate your viewpoint. For myself, I don't find it funny.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
no one said a slur, he instead implied what isn’t a good word to use, but he didn’t use it in a derogatory way. and how do we know that the person who made this isn’t a person of color?
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Of course we don't, but we have to think a little about what it says about us.
1 up, 3y,
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if you laugh, it says you can understand a joke, even if it’s a little racist because you know that you aren’t racist. if you don’t laugh, it says that you can’t take a joke that’s even a little offensive because you don’t want to possibly appear to be even slightly racist because you think that’s what people will think of you simply bc you laughed at an offensive joke
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Or . . . wait for it . . . my sense of humor doesn't match Ralph's. I laugh, but not at this, sorry.
0 ups, 3y
aight
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
"i’m not saying that something should or should zone ok is a black and white stance, i’m saying that i think it’s funny.

i see where you’re coming from though, and i used to think just like you, but i took a step back and i made it so i was able to discern the difference between a joke and a serious statement. and tbh, my life is quite a bit better."
>> You mean, you pick and choose when something is and isn't racist, not being of the race in question of the joke. You're deciding for another race that something is or isn't racist. Do you not see the problem?

"and if this joke either said the n word or was directing it at a person, i’d feel very differently, but as far as i know, it’s a joke and that’s what i’m going to take it as"
>> It astonishes me that you think that simply because the joke doesn't say the word, that it's innocent. However, the wording of the joke clearly presents only one viable outcome that is meant to resemble the word in question. What you're doing is pleading a special case of plausible deniability/cherry picking. It's okay because it didn't technically say it.. That's a bullshit argument and you know it.
0 ups, 3y,
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no, i’m decoding if i think something is a joke or if they’re being serious about it.

i don’t think it’s innocent and that’s part of why it’s funny. and, technically the only outcome of the jokes is nigers, being a sort of slang for those who live in nigeria. and yes, the reason it’s not really bad is because they didn’t say the word
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
It's obviously pointing to a racial epithet. Otherwise, the word would be Nigerians. The joke leads to what would be the most inappropriate otherwise racists wouldn't find it funny.
1 up, 3y
if a black person thinks it’s funny does that make them racist?
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