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Communism is coming, folks

Communism is coming, folks | THE LEFT’S FOUNDING FATHER; THE RIGHT’S FOUNDING FATHER | image tagged in karl marx wisdom,memes,george washington,politics,communism,america | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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never heard of oliver chromwell or maximilien robspierre? its just embarrassing how little my own countrymen know about the origins of our own system, and our founding fathers had a lot to say on that matter as to why this ignorance would come to pass. (something about tyranny or something lol)
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One was opposed to slavery. Can you guess which one?
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Marx's system enslaves everyone without calling it "slavery", so neither of them were anti slavery. If everyone is a slave, no one is. What you mean is which one claimed to be anti slavery. However, many of the founding fathers were not for slavery, like Ben Franklin. Matter of fact, the argument against slavery then was that we were fighting to not be England's slaves so we should free everyone. That argument was rumaged by people in that day, so just stop acting like all the founding fathers were pro-slacery racists.
Can you tell me of an instance where you were in a slave-like situation in America? Because I can tell you many from countries whose leaders are Marx's disciples. Like China, for example, where opposing Marxism in school leads to severe punishment.
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Does not change the fact that the founders had slaves, kept slavery in the constitution and made Africans three-fifths of a person. This country exploits the 13th amendment to coerce prisoners into laboring for less than a dollar an hour.

Slavery in American life is also selling labor to a capitalist to get by, being the subject of the corporate oligarchs, being deprived of nature by private property.

Marx’s system doesn’t enslave anyone. He called for a democratized economy where there were free associations of producers which possessed the means of production. He wrongly believed this could only be achieved through the state.
Still, Marx did not call for the one-party Marxist-Leninist states that have vanguarded so-called “communism”. You can blame these centralized, bureaucratic economies on Lenin. Indeed, you are exploited by the bureaucracy under those regimes, but you are exploited by the capitalists under capitalist regimes.
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Yes they had slaves, and I've never defended slavery, but that doesn't make them all evil. And like I said, many people had a problem with the Constitution over this and only signed it because it was the way to agree on escaping England's tyranny. Also, for any dope that wants to call all white Americans racists, you do realize you were freed because of white Northerners, right?
And what are Democrats doing to change that prison law, now that they control the country?
Are you seriously suggesting that having possessions and doing hard work that earns you money is slavery? What's the solution, we all don't work and all get to constantly trespass in each other's houses and be kleptomaniacs (with communism the government can do this freely btw).
To suggest this stuff is slavery is disrespectful to the actual American slaves in the 1700s and 1800s whose bodies and possessions were another person's property. Imagine telling those people that owning their own property and doing their own work was a form of slavery.

Yes, Lenin was very harsh. However, there were people before Marx that lived in the 1700s, believed similar things as he did, and were similar to Lenin. And Lenin wasn't the last to follow Marx and act the way he did. There was Mao Zedong, Stalin, Pol Pot, (Mussolini was inspired by Lenin), the Kims in North Korea, etc.
Also, ike Hitler, Marx was half Jewish and despised Jews. Also Marx believed in government control, which has nothing to do with freedom. Controlling your country's finances doesn't free it.
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You are making a number of assumptions about me. I didn't say all white Americans are racists. I said the founders were racists that owned slavery and defended its institution. I don't expect Democrats to take a hard stance on prisons, especially toward decarceration. For so long they fueled mass incarceration. Some Democrat states, California, New Jersey and New York, have trended toward decarceration but generally we can't even get Dems to take funds from police and use it to the benefit of communities.

I am suggesting that owning private property, which was violently colonized from the natives, is an awful institution which enables wage slavery and perpetuates massive inequality (one of the worst in the modern world, in fact). I am arguing that slavery is having these capitalists monopolize the world's resources (which were previously maintained and consumed in common) and the majority of us have to sell our labor power to them to ever enjoy these often basic necessities for ourselves. That isn't hard work on the part of the capitalists, it is parasitism.

Obviously Marx didn't invent communistic principles, and it has been suggested that he plagiarized another author before him. I'm not aware of any similarities to Lenin.

Don't know what your last point is. The Nazis denounced Bolsheviks as Marxist Jews and anti-Semitism today is the bedrock of the far-right.
Mussolini rejected Marxism and class struggle when he founded Italian fascism.
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