Because right-wingers are just so notorious for being socialists. But tell me why they should be classified as right-wing.

They hated socialists and communists? As in, they put them in concentration camps. They were the exact opposite of "Everyone is a comrade". Hitler's first contact with the NSDAP was spying on them for the government in case they were socialist. He found out they were actually much more nationalist and right-wing, and aligned with his views, so he decided to join them. It was also anti-atheist throughout, unlike socialism and communism.

You need to specify which socialists they hated, they literally were socialists, that's why they so tightly regulated the economy. Yes they hated communism, don't you? Or do you support the system that has murdered more people in human history than any other system?
Anti-atheist how?

Hitler on the matter: "I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property." The socialism he was talking about was very different to what we think.

Anti-atheist like this: "Hitler viewed atheists as uneducated, and atheism as the state of the animals. He associated atheism with Bolshevism, Communism, and "Jewish materialism"".

Many right-wing historians and far-right groups have argued that this one word in their name makes them left wing instead of right wing, essentially discrediting all of his history (In my opinion, anyway), but a name doesn't discredit the actions. Most historians have agreed the the Nazis were a right wing movement, and it's generally a good idea to go with what the majority of historians agree on.

One of the words in NAZI is Socialist

Yes, Nazi is short for "Nationalsozialismus" (Nationalistic socialism). First off, tell me how Nationalism isn't right wing. Second off, read the quote above: "We shall TAKE SOCIALISM AWAY FROM THE SOCIALISTS", and "MARXISM HAS NO RIGHT TO DISGUISE ITSELF AS SOCIALISM". The socialism he thought of was very different to that of the USSR

Yes, but it is a different type of Socialism the Nazi's used

Exactly. The socialism Hitler meant was much more right wing than the socialism we think of today

Yeah, because he saw Marxism/communism as the Jewish plot to rule the world (which, is only half true, because they did want to rule the world, they just weren't Jewish, they hated Jews too), and he saw capitalism as the Jewish plot to eventually force the world through it's inevitable economic collapse.

Well it seems you're at least right about that, but it doesn't make him right wing.

It's not just the name. The Nazi regime regulated prices, wages, etc., and made the corporations work for the state, in other words, they were socialist in name and in practice.

What did they do that was inherently right wing?

Those things aren't inherently communist or fascist. They are Authoritarian (Political compass time). They favour a strong government that controls and knows everything. Fascism, however is ultranationalism, that goes against traditional conservatism, liberalism, and communism, and has attracted attention from the far right. You never see a Biden voter screaming "Heil Hitler", and you never see a Trump voter flying the flag of the USSR. I can guarantee you that every Nazi you come across will be pro-republican, a.k.a, right wing, and every communist will be pro-Democrat, a.k.a, left wing.

Socialism is left wing, free markets are right wing. Or would you like to explain to me where right and left wings stand?

If socialism, which is the economic opposite of free markets, is left wing, then it would follow that free markets are right wing, being the economic opposite of socialism.
Yeah, because you don't have to be fully bought into all the crazy far left ideology to be a liberal

That's not how it works. Free markets are are liberal/libertarian. It doesn't matter where you stand. If you are pro-freedom, you probably support a free market. America has just tied left wing with communism to make people think anything less conservative than pragerU in automatically communist. Socialism is left wing. Free markets are liberal/libertarian. Fascism is right wing.

Yes, socialism is left wing
Hitler was a socialist
Therefore, Hitler is left wing

And if socialism, which is economics, is determined by left and right, then how can free markets, which is economics, be determined by authoritarian or libertarian? It's different ends of the economic spectrum, it's not different spectrums.

Hitler was not a socialist. He didn't look up to the Socialist parties in Germany. He didn't look up to Marx or Lenin or Stalin. No. He hated them with a burning passion almost as much as he hated the Jews. I'll tell you who he did look up to. Benito Mussolini. The man who made Fascist Italy, and Hitler modelled his Germany after that. An ultra nationalistic, far right white ethnostate. Do you seriously want to dispute something the vast majority of historians and even F***ING HITLER agreed on because of one word in his party name?

Socialism is left wing.
So is communism.
Fascism is right wing (As hard as it may be to accept for you).
Italy was Fascist
Hitler hated Socialists and Communists, as can be evidenced through his saying "We shall take socialism away from the socialists".
Hitler looked up to fascist Italy as an example
Hitler modelled Germany after Italy
Therefore. Hitler was right wing.

You need to stop thinking of right wing as "Good ol' Freedom", and "Liberty Guns Beer Trump". That's not right wing (It is, but not the only possible option).

"didn't look up to the socialist parties in Germany" Is literally the most well-known member of the National Socialist German Workers Party. lol
Marxism isn't the only socialism out there. Socialism is an economic system. Marxism as an ideology believes in class struggle, and that violent revolution must usher in a communist state that uses the economic system of socialism (means of production in the hands of the workers [state]). Nazism as an ideology believes in Aryan superiority, and employs the economic system of socialism, as in, the state was in control of the means of production.

Why are you assuming Fascism is right wing?

I'll clarify that a bit. Didn't look up to parties for TRADITIONAL socialism

I'm assuming fascism is right wing because the majority of historians and people agree on that, and the majority tends to be correct. The idea that the NSDAP was left wing is a talking point made only by right wing groups and historians so that they can shift the blame on "Those durn liberals". But I'm assuming you're not going to read or acknowledge this because your only evidence is "b-b-b-but they had socialist in their name!"

The majority doesn't mean the truth though

Not necessarily, but when the qualified people have a majority on something, that is almost always true, so it makes sense for us to classify Nazis as right-wing

and it made sense to say the earth was flat. That's what all the experts said

1. People have known the Earth was round since the ancient Greeks

2. The experts then were also the priests. You may note that historians are not exclusively priests

Just because it's a majority doesn't mean it's right. Look at their policies. Look at how they used the government to control the economy.

"Just because it's a majority doesn't mean it's right"

Democracy much?

Uh, look where the majority went in Nazi Germany. Was that right just because it was a majority?

Those were desperate people looking for someone to blame as the moderate solutions died off, and were persuaded through Hitler's speeches to rally and form a new Reich. You may note that we don't have that situation with historians today

No, in Socialism, workers control the means of production, they are the goverment.

In Facism and Nazism, on the other hand, goverment controls the workers and various aspects of society.

Looks like somehow it got merged with Social Welfare by I wonder who.

With logic like Nazis = Socialists = Liberals = Democrats = Nazis, I'm surprised the use of Social Clubs by the Mafia & friends isn't turned into proof that Democrats are all in the Mob and Social Studies in school hasn't been dubbed the means of brainwashing the youth into Marxists.

If they control it, what do you think that means?

They controlled it for their purposes, and they got the profits from it via taxes, that's ownership for all intents and purposes.

The other thing is that comradeship is the center of all dictatorships and Nazism wasn't an exception. Like in communist China, the youth were thrilled by the new idea and joined the crew of youths fully thrusting themselves into it, and being unified with everyone else. (By "unified", they meant killing dissenters).

At this point, you're just listing ways that Nazi Germany was similar to the USSR. What's next? They were both power hungry?

They were socialists themselves, and right wingers support less government involvement, so yeah

One of your illusions seems to be the political spectrum is like a line. It's not. The further you go, the more similar they become. Authoritarian. The only difference between far right and far left is that the right are more militaristic and have slightly more guns

Slightly more? I believe that they’re a very rare liberal gun owners

please rephrase that in a legible way. I have no idea what on earth you just said

Yeah, just realized autocorrect jacked it up. The right doesn’t have “slightly” more guns, they have many many more guns since hey believe the citizens should be armed in case of tyranny. Also, right wingers agree with small government. None of these match the Nazis

As I've explained. There are 2 differences between the far right and the far left. The Right has more guns, and they hate communists. Right wingers agree in a small government up to a certain point

1) Hitler was hostile to religion and rebellious against God. If you're going to say he was anti-athiest, you don't know much about him.
2) He hated left wing ideas like socialism and communism because they were other dictatorship plans and thus would challenge his. That doesn't make him a right winger.

That was not serious. In his youth he proclaimed hostility to God. And I never said he was atheist. If anything he was more of a Satanist. He may have believed God exists, but if he did he had no intention of following Him. It's like Stalin, who literally mustered up energy to raise his fist at God on his death bed.

1) fascist is not right wing, that's a left wing myth
2) the left has far more in common with Hitler than the right does rn
3) just because something is called "church doesn't make it Christian. There are hate churches and "spaghetti monster churches" and Jedi churches and Bacon churches. Heck, there's a Thor church these days.
4) For someone who hated Marxism, he was very very similar to Marx himself. Just one simple similarity is that they both were half jewish white supremacists who despised jews. There are many others, however.
5) Say Hitler was indeed right wing. That means the right has killed 20M ppl due to dictatorship. Stalin alone matched that number (not counting the mass forced abortion rate there that startled even Margaret Sanger), and don't even get to Mao Zedong, who killed 65M of his own country's people. Pol Pot pulled a Thanos on his country and North Korea is just hell, and communist china allows it. If Nazism is in fact right wing, its 20M murders do not even remotely compare to the estimated 144M murders (not including many events btw) of left wing communism. The left is worse either way you put it. That's not saying idc about the 20M; all murder is wrong imo. The point is that education teaches us how evil the idea of Nazism was but teaches us a nice side of communism. Can you imagine if you explained how evil Nazism was to help others not make the same mistake, but then teachers said they'd teach a softer, kinder version of Nazism? That's what they do with communism.

Communist theory may lean Left, but those who have taken the helm in all so-called Communist countries end up being basic Autocrats, and they went to what was natural to them, and that is Right Wing and Conservatism.

Sure, some initial radical reorginization of society, but the end result was always serfdom in effect, with party bosses the new feudal lords. Their backward leanings are a Conservative's wet dream, albeit layered with attempts to industrialize and rebuild infrastructure and all that under the veil of Socialism but in reality under top-heavy rule.

Autocrats are basically wannabe kings, and that's what they elevate themselves to be. They have old fashioned values, as witnessed by those whom they oppress, albiet while trying to stomp out those who pose a potential threat to their rule and vision all the while cuddling up to old institutions like the traditional majority religion.

That link literally states later that the agreement was set up to get the church to shut up about politics and only talk about religion.
And yes, socialism tends to take over countries after wars when the people are poor and desperate. But just because it's an attractive idea doesn't make it good.

True, but marxism has proven to be an exception, bc they've snuck into US education even though the US was the driving anti-communist force and was very successful. It's likely they've infiltrated the US, or the US never won the Cold War. And I'm starting to believe both now.

Idk if you're being sarcastic but socialism is anti church now, and Marx was anti-God.
Yea i don't trust Wikipedia much anymore, especially after one of their book recommendations on exploring the mind of religious people was The God Delusion.

Yea, after so much time history gets very very blurry. This is why i do not appreciate mis-education.

Calling Hitler Catholic is like calling Richard Dawkins Christian. Just beacuse you grew up Christian doesn't make you one forever. Whatever Hitler claimed to believe in, he was very hostile to God and expressed it. He once said he would make his own commandments.
And Catholics don't always know much about the Bible, and have tortured ppl b4 (see the spanish inquisition).

Well idk much about thule and satruni but i could definitely see the hindu connection.

So is this entire page a mistake? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler Yes, Hitler was anti catholic and anti traditional religion. He still viewed atheists as savages and idiots, but he essentially tried to create a new church. In the political climate of the Weimar republic, people were forced to choose between the KPD (Communists), or the NSDAP (Fascists), so the 2 far ends of each side