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Capitalism is "freedom"

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503 views 3 upvotes Made by TriggeringConservatives 3 years ago in politics
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2 ups, 3y,
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You'll be free enough when I fire your stupid, lazy ass. Free to hopefully starve to death.
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0 ups, 3y
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1 up, 3y,
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WOW the logic on your argument...
1 up, 3y,
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Considering they don't pay you most of the value you produce for the company, yeah.
1 up, 3y,
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You are free to look for a different job that pays your worth. That is not excuse to play around when someone is paying you money to do the job. Let me break it down how it works because it appears you have the wrong expectations . YOU agreed to take the job for that wage and YOU are responsible for finding a job that pays what you are worth. It is not the employer's responsibility to pay YOU more that what you agreed to work for their responsibility is that the company survives and they can stay in business. It is also YOUR responsibility to fin a job that pays YOUR desired wage, and it is also YOUR responsibility for obtaining the training to get you there, no one else.
1 up, 3y,
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Employers have access to resources of subsistence, including land. They own the means of production, because of this we are unable to produce for ourselves, and so we sell our labor to these employers. These employers dictate our work schedule, how long we may break for, if we can have time off, the work we can perform (even if it’s dangerous) and because of the undemocratic nature of capitalism we have no say in any of this. We can quit and find another capitalist where the conditions mirror the last.

There are no jobs that pay peoples’ worth, because everyone who sells their labor offers surplus labor to satisfy and line the pockets of their employer. We are paid a wage while they turn over a profit. If employees were paid back everything they produced, capitalism could not persist.

I love how you only care about the employer’s needs and not the majority of the planet that needs employment to survive. Typical right winger.
0 ups, 3y,
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1) NO, so wrong in so many levels. Do you know who entrepreneur are? Anyone can be an entrepreneur, including you. All you need is to have an idea and get a loan to start your own business like any other employer has done. So this makes your whole first paragraph wrong. If you lack the ability to have an idea and make money from your idea, then you are just a laborer and you are exposed to laborer wages.
2) My wife makes $200k a year working as a senior dev manager for a well known company. She knows how to sell herself and earns her worth. That you are a failure at life does not mean everyone else is. I also make pretty decent money myself for the education I got.
3) I care about the employers need because if the company goes under from not making profit I will out looking for a new job, so of course I am going to care my company does well. I like my job, and I rather do that than being a slime government dependent on welfare checks sitting all day on my couch looking at tv.

Employer (business owner) is the one that 1) comes out with a unique idea that can profit from 2) got a huge loan with a risk of failing so that he/she can run a business and has to pay back 3) has to manage lawsuits and legal crap daily + employees who evidently are talking on their phones 4) pay for the expenses of the company such as rent and utility of the building (yes because this things are not free) 5) provide benefits and incentive to employees, while the employees are playing on their phone. So, rightfully so the employer is going to take the biggest cut out of the profits! Are you really this dense or are you trolling me?

Not a right winger, but a libertarian who understands how things run. You lack understanding, you act on feelings.
1 up, 3y,
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Let me correct you: you need CAPITAL to start a business. Some poor beggar on the streets is not going to be able to start their own franchise on their own. You can't always work from home. Most startups are failures, as you mentioned, but you do not seem to care that this results in a majority of people selling themselves into servitude. You neglect the monopolization of resources I was hinting at, and how the working class are becoming poorer as the capitalist class is wealthier than ever. You also neglect generational wealth -- not every capitalist had an "idea" and become rich off of it. Always, they became rich because other people worked below them to make those profits.

By your language, it is clear you couldn't give less of a f**k about the less fortunate, with your "slime government dependent" and "failure at life". So what if someone fails at the capitalist game? You really think they should be homeless, starving, naked and what have you because they can't please the rich enough? What the actual hell is wrong with you?

And who do you think pays the costs of utility and rent? Capitalists produce nothing. It is the workers that they hire that produce enough profits to reproduce their work and to keep the business functioning.

Also, you can't say that you're "not a right winger, but a libertarian". That is so laughable. It would be more respected if you meant libertarian in the anarchist and communistic original sense of the term, but I know that you don't. Let's get this straight: you endorse the capitalist system, and think private property is the foundation of a free society. You see hierarchies as inevitable. You absolutely are a right-winger.
0 ups, 3y
"Let me correct you: you need CAPITAL to start a business" Did you intentionally ignored the business loan part? No I do not give a darn about those who are not willing to lift a finger to better themselves. I do give a darn about the less fortunate, I put my life on the line when I served the military, and I also have build 16 homes in habitat for humanity to assist those less fortunate families improve their life. I do not give a darn about the socialist human slime that plagues cultures, those who are not willing to lift a finger to better themselves but will do anything to attack those who have gotten better working hard because it goes against their lazy lifestyle, they find it threatening. You are delusional. You are so far away departed from reality is not even worth arguing with you. You should change your name to triggeredlibtard as evidently that is what you are and you can't argue something without bringing your emotions. Reality > personal emotions. I invite you to live in Cuba, my country, fully socialist and people do not own business, government is in full control. Please go live in Cuba for 5 months and then come back and talk to me after you have done so, else you are not worth my time.
0 ups, 3y
of course you are going to pour out your emotions. My independent, honest, hard working, dignified lifestyle is threatening to your lazy, government dependent lifestyle. The End.
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