I shouldn't pin this all on Biden. Woodrow Wilson was the first socialist sell out. Wilson was the first of many to follow.

Didn't Woodrow Wilson supress socialists?

No. Wilson was a socialist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs#Incarceration

You know the rule among socialists. Every socialist politician is more socialist than the other socialist politician. Every socialist regime never practiced socialism.

German socialists hated Hitler, even though Hitler was heavily involved in the German socialist movement until he came up with his own version of socialism. When he rose to power, the German socialists turned on Hitler.

The same story happened in Italy with Mussolini. Mussolini strayed from the Italian socialists when he created fascism. The Italian socialist killed him for it.

Debs was running for president in the Socialist Party. He had to discredit Wilson's socialist leanings.

Wilson hated the Constitution. He wanted to throw it out. He was clearly part of the early 20th century Progressive movement.

Wilson said, "We ought to regard ourselves and act as socialists -- believers in the wholesomeness and beneficence of the body politic"

He also said "You cannot tear up the ancient rootage and safely plant the tree of liberty in soil that is not native to it"

And: "No government has ever been beneficent when the attitude of government was that it was taking care of the people. The only freedom consists in the people taking care of the government."

These are his ideas of socialism. While other socialists might favor what Wilson said, after all he was a hero to the Democrat party until recently when the Dems started cancelling everyone out of our history who was a racist and Wilson was the most racist president since Andrew Jackson.

There is a problem that all socialists have. They cannot recognize socialism in other forms of collectivism. Marx build his version of communism on socialism. Hitler patterned Nazism after Marx and socialism. Mussolini also patterned fascism on socialism. Mao on Marx and socialism.

All of those systems of government are built on the same foundation and that foundation is socialism. It drives socialists, communists, Nazis and fascists crazy when you say that because they are caught in the minutia but they all have the same foundation. And that foundation is limited or no private property, the economy is controlled by the government. Businesses are either owned or co-owned with controlling interest by the government. Labor sets the price of products, not competition. The individual is expendable, only the collective matters.

In order to get the people onboard with these regimes there must be an oppressed and an oppressor.

Why must every single thing you say be a lie?

The previous 4 years it would have been a "cult"

the past 4 years were run by a CULT leader it wasnt a republic.
- stay in school slow kid

Yeah I think there were some people who acted like they were in a cult over Trump. However, the worst cult with the hate cult the left created in reaction to Trump. I have seen the left hate Republicans all my life but nothing compared the level of hatred they had for Trump. It was the left's hatred of Trump that blinded them completely to the fact that Joe Biden was never fit to be the president. And now we're stuck with that idiot all because of the left's hatred and massive voter fraud.

look how the QOP turned on each other for either you were IN the cult or you were called names and threatened by your own.
He still won fair and square, unless they find those bamboo ballets, the laser beam from Israel or ....

I saw that also. There are Trump supporters and Never Trumpers in the GOP. I was an almost never Trumper until 2020. The guy running for president in the Constitution party said he was "More Trump than Trump" and that turned me off of him. The Libertarians pissed me off in 2016 when the ran with a man who said he was "73% the same as Bernie Sanders". I am sorry but I want a man who is 0% socialist as my president, not a man who is 73% socialist. What were the Libertarians even thinking? So I gave in and voted for Trump.

Especially when Biden won the Democrat nomination. My jaw hit the floor. That's the guy the Dems are pinning all their dreams on??? I've paid attention to Biden ever since the fool he made of himself in the Iran-Contra hearings in the 80's. Biden is a complete idiot. He was an idiot before he had dementia and now he is an idiot without a brain.

Biden just makes stuff up. He has no real grounding in US history or politics or anything. He rambles on about stuff that just is not true and then he gets angry and yells at his own constituents.

Biden is the worst of the worst and his 8 months of being the president has clearly shown that. Especially the way he is completely botching Afghanistan. The leftist media is on heavy lie mode right now. They keep trying to tell you that everything is going to be okay, except it isn't.

Biden could not have been more helpful to the Taliban even if he tried. He blocked private parties who went over there to rescue the upwards of 35,000 US citizens he left stranded. Biden's goons got a few people out and they are bragging like they got everyone out.

Then they claim that the military hardware left behind had all been disabled. Well then how were the Taliban about to fly our Apache helicopters around town with victims who were hung by the neck and were still hanging from those helicopters when the pictures were taken.

The worst part is Biden wants to start up Obama's importing of mostly male between the age of 18 and 35 Muslims into America at the same time he is blocking Middle-East Christians whose lives are in serious danger, now that the Taliban has taken over. They aren't allowed here but Islamic terrorists are.

We all thought Obama was the most anti-America and pro-Islamic terrorist president but Obama only got 4 American civilians murdered. Biden has gotten 13 America soldiers killed and who know how many US citizens will end up butchered.

<He has no real grounding in US history or politics or anything>remember when Clumpy was surprised to learn that PR was a US territory, and he told us how it was surrounded by a big body of water...
Biden was the opposite of COVID45 just as COVID45 was the opposite of Mr. Obama. CULT45 was a one term loser, lost the popular vote TWICE, the went on to lose the House and Senate and the GA runoff. His handling of his HUGE loss showed us what a child he is. <- and the QOP wants to run this LOSER again?

Really? Orange Man Bad is how you respond to Biden's treason? What Biden just did in Afghanistan is the worst thing any president has ever done. Nothing Trump did ever came close to this. Trump never abandoned Americans, he never gave our enemy any weapons, let along 83 Billion dollars worth.

Trump was NOT responsible for COVID. He didn't cause it to spread. The left did everything they could to pin the virus on Trump but he is not responsible for any part of it.

The worst of what happened and is still happening is all of the lock downs the Democrats did when they tried to wreck the economy to make Trump look bad for the election. It backfired on them when the red states didn't lock down and their economy kept growing.

You are a funny little cult45 follower- he is your orange jesus.

"biden didnt start this war- thank the Republicans
Obama didnt end it, Trump didnt end it.
President Biden- ended it."

How many times do you need to be told that is is NOT about getting our troops out of Afghanistan. It is all about HOW Biden got our troops out.

We should have never gotten into war with any Middle Eastern country in the first place. What we should have done is gone after the people who instigated 9/11 and once we took them out then we should have come home.

Obama promised that we would be out of the Middle East within a year of his first term. All he did was get our soldiers further entrenched while giving money and weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood to be disseminated Al Qaeda and ISIS. Obama was purposely fighting against our own troops.

Trump put a stop to all of Obama's treason. Biden is nothing more than Obama's 3rd term. No real American president, Democrat or Republican, would have pulled our troops out BEFORE retrieving all of our citizens and all of our military hardware. A real American president would have gotten everyone out BEFORE they pulled out any military personal and would have only left enough military hardware for our troops to use. And by the last solider that was brought home there would be absolutely nothing left behind.

Instead YOUR idiot just pulled the troops out and left it at that. He even went so far as to get in the way of private charities who went over there to do the job a real American president would have done in the first place. Especially if they try to rescue Christians.

So spare me this crap about how evil Republicans are. No Republican would have ever pulled out of a war like this. Neither would any Democrat with the exception of Obama and Biden. But Obama and Biden aren't real Americans. They swore allegiances to other countries. Biden is completely owned by China. Obama aligned himself with the Muslim Brotherhood.

thank goodness tRUMP was smart enough to make a deal with the Taliban.

SMHID!!!

Why is it so important for you to try to pigeon hole me. I am not your straw man. I do not fit into your mold no matter how hard to try to fit me into that mold.

Instead of trying to mitigate my value as a human being, why don't you try looking at the truth.

biden didnt start this war- thank the Republicans
Obama didnt end it, Trump didnt end it.
President Biden- ended it.
Supposedly we were training their military for the past 20 years. Those weapons left were for the Afghan army. Imagine if the US pulled out all the weapons out of Afghan and their army gave up because they didnt have any weapons?
You want to be right on both sides.
The war should have stopped years ago- we are not nation builders.
The fact they rolled over and didnt fight proved why we should have left years ago.
Get your binky out of your?