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Why the extra steps? | INSTEAD OF INJECTING YOU WITH NON INFECTIOUS VIRUS PARTS TO TRIGGER YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM MRNA VACCINES INSTRUCT YOUR CELLS TO MAKE NON INFECTIOUS VIRUS PARTS TO TRIGGER YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM; THAT'S JUST A REGULAR VACCINE WITH EXTRA STEPS | image tagged in rick morty extra steps | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
246 views 6 upvotes Made by boredmeme 3 years ago in politics
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Why the extra steps? So that it works. Cowpox antibodies don't do anything to coronavirus!
1 up, 3y,
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No. That's why you need a SPECIFIC vaccine. But instead of using deactivated covid 19 virus or non virulent pieces of it, like in a normal vaccine, it uses mRNA (which isn't itself the vaccine) to force our cells to make the virus pieces (the actual vaccine) instead. Its weird. Like I said, extra steps.
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So? If you make a practice target infection for your body to train its antibodies with your own cells instead of something external in a lab, what's the difference? Your body just needs a dummy to train on, fabricating it in the cells rather than hoping it will survive the delivery through the injection sounds like a great idea to me.
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I just wonder why it would be considered a better method of delivery. I mean, making cells make virus parts is what viruses do. It's how they reproduce. So if life were a sci-fi novel, the mRNA would definitely mutate, behave like a virus, and backfire. Presumably the vaccine doesn't contain enough information to replicate itself in it's entirety, so it won't reproduce and will die out after producing just enough parts to elicit an immune response.
My point is that this is different than traditional vaccines ( i.e. every other vaccine up to this point) and it's reasonable for people to be a little skeptical.
I'm not skeptical enough to not get it, as upcoming legislation will make it impossible to live you life without proof of vaccination, and I don't believe I could effectively "fight the machine".
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"Presumably the vaccine doesn't contain enough information to replicate itself in it's entirety, so it won't reproduce and will die out after producing just enough parts to elicit an immune response."

Actually, that's exactly correct. Well done.

The reason you want it in your cell and not just in your blood stream is because your body doesn't actually trigger an active immune response until cell matter starts turning up in your lymphatic system. Delivering the agent into your bloodstream will first introduce it to your passive immune response, which is nice but that's the system that responds to all disease anyway and what you want is the antibody specific to this virus in particular. Fabricating it in cell in the first instance shortcuts the process to engage with the active immune response sooner, so in that respect it's actually skipping an extra step if anything!
0 ups, 3y
Lol, thanks but I don’t think good enough for you is the measure of efficacy or safety.
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INSTEAD OF INJECTING YOU WITH NON INFECTIOUS VIRUS PARTS TO TRIGGER YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM MRNA VACCINES INSTRUCT YOUR CELLS TO MAKE NON INFECTIOUS VIRUS PARTS TO TRIGGER YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM; THAT'S JUST A REGULAR VACCINE WITH EXTRA STEPS