Those two should be ashamed of themselves.

REMEMBER: This is the "back the blue" crowd.

Guess they meant to say “black and blue”

About as silly as saying because someone likes German beer they must be hitler spawn.

I don't watch Fox news, but if she said that it is rather funny. That officer comparing it to a medieval battle is complete exaggeration.
And letting in an unruly mob can hardly be called defending the White House or anyone inside. They should have been shooting, balls out the whole time, and before the mob made it inside. George Floyd was killed over a counterfeit $20 yet an unruly mob described as "coming ready for a fight" can stroll into the nation's capitol without resistance???
Oh please, they was let in.

Holding them back? I assume you mean in a passive way.
Because if the police held them back like they meant business the rioters would be tripping over fallen bodies as they routed and fled the field.
Since they like making medieval comparisons, consider this.
The barricades you mention could be compared to moats and or outer walls. When the barbarians is approaching is the time to be putting the hurt on them with your archers. And when they knock a hole in your walls or gates, you fill the hole with infantry to cut them down all the while archers on the walls and behind the infantry are raining death on them. There is one very important rule in Medieval battles, never ever give up the walls. The walls are there to protect you, but if you don't defend them, they are useless.

Like I said, comparing it to a medieval battle is complete exaggeration. Those barriers are mostly to keep a civilized group of onlookers from crossing into restricted areas. Not to keep back an unruly mob ready to execute people.

Those barriers reminds me of the lightweight quick attach corral panels used with cattle. They are taller of course, and made of aluminum I think. When the cattle are cooperative the gates work good as a blind. A phrase which here means something that will not stop anything, like cover versus concealment. Anyways if you have the gates tied to the end of a barn and the cow decides to charge into the gate, it rips it off, curls the gate up like a meat-skin, and carries it off.

The mob might can easily overcome those obstacles but they never should have taken the police's guns and threatened them with it. The police should have been lighting them up.

Have you seen the footage of the mob fighting their way through the police?

Oh yes, it was positively horrific! Guns blazing, RPGs and mortars going off everywhere, and was that a massive battle ax being swung down at some officer?
Just kidding.
Yes, I saw some footage of soyboys wearing pajamas having a tug of war with some more soyboys in police / cyclist uniform. Both sides was was tugging for control of a measly little barrier. I looked hard for guns, and I am somewhat trained in spotting weapons, and I saw none. I heard the theatrical cursing, no shortage of F words. Some soyboy with tattoos and a nike hoody (one must question why a true MAGA follower would wear nike after their support of Kaepernick) picked up a phone, and for more theatrical purposes spoke threats into it involving Pelosi and Pence. Hmm, maybe they just have a thing against people who's last name starts with P. Anyways I doubt he actually called anyone, he couldn't possibly know the actual number to call, and he didn't wait for the recorder to give the list of what button to push for whom. I doubt it is a phone that just calls one section only. And I saw the little gallows that looked like it would break if someone did a pull up from it. By the way there was no battle ax being swung, just what looked to be a microphone.
Honestly if it wasn't for the cheap MAGA gear I would possibly think it's Black Friday shoppers. People have been bruised, knocked down, and even killed in those events too.

I shouldn't have watched the footage, it was more elaborate imagining it based off of Astrovius's description. They had a gallows, no weapons, and some soyboy attempting to make a spectacle of himself by saying to the cheering mob that they are going to go in and get them (the politicians) and hang them. So by that they was ready to execute. However making a statement and intent is two very different things. I doubt they had the intent. If they did where was the guns? The nerve of that guy, probably thinks he's got the nation trembling. Kick him in the balls if he has any and move on to the next soyboy.
It's pathetic.

Terrorism downplayer. Gotcha.

If those soyboys fill you with terror then you have my pity.

(You just insulted your own side.)
And tell that to the Capitol police officers who've spoken out and testified. You back the blue, right?

How did I insult my own side?

I do not back the blue in all cases. I didn't support the guys who killed Floyd and I do not support cowards letting an unruly mob into the White House to execute people.

Ah yes the usual George Floyd deflection. Right on cue

Comparing Minneapolis PD to the capitol police is like gathering an Apple and an orange and saying they’re both grapes.

That mob wasn’t ready for a fight, they were ready to execute people. Just because you don’t want to believe the atrocities that happened that day doesn’t mean that they didn’t happen.

Deflection?
I'm pretty sure I saw you fellas of politicstoo make memes pointing out that fact. But when I do so it's a deflection?
And you saying they came ready to execute people just makes it even more damning as to why the police wasn't shooting when the mob was coming in.

The point of the comparison is that a very minor offense resulted in the death of someone meanwhile an unruly mob coming ready to execute people isn't shot at?
I never said they didn't happen, I am saying it was orchestrated.
And saying it is exaggerated is not saying it didn't happen. Comparing it to a medieval battle is wrong.
The police did nothing to stop an unruly mob that was ready to execute people. Come on man.

There was nothing “minor” about what happened that day. Calling that minor is like calling the Oklahoma City bombing a house fire.

You are right though, the riot WAS orchestrated. But not by Pelosi as so many right wing media outlets believe. Pelosi is the “go to blame” card used when other options of blame make Republicans sound like even bigger idiots than they already are. For example: “hugging and kissing” and “they were friendly tourists”.

The police did more than you think. And to say they didn’t is deliberate ignorance.

Kindly read my reply to Octavia.

When I said minor I was referring to what George Floyd, using a counterfeit $20 was a very minor offense. Yet he was killed.
I don't know who the orchestrators are but I never once thought of blaming Pelosi. She is of no importance, people makes jokes comparing line charts to her eyebrows. I'm sure you're right and some people blame her for all the troubles but they are wrong.

I am reading an article saying the police said the mobsters took their guns away and was threatening to kill them with their own gun. The bullets of that gun should have been emptied into the horde of attackers! Call me ignorant all you want, the police should have done a lot more.

Floyd was killed by a cop that thought his own method of enforcing justice was right instead of the ways he was taught which were more appropriate. Chauvin was no cop, he was a vigilante in a cop outfit.

Lethal force is a last resort option, one that wasn’t even used when Trump finally authorized use of the national guard hours after the insurrection started. All men and women that put on a uniform and use firearms, soldier or officer, are given emphasis that killing is never the first choice.

I do agree that some officers could have done more, and some did little to nothing, but others went through hell that is usually experienced by soldiers overseas. But to say the police in entirety didn’t do enough just because they didn’t gun down people like the secret service did is just ridiculous.

It would have only made the situation far worse, and may have even provoked additional riots in the future with armed rioters.

To say one went through hell is a relative term. To some going a few days without running water is going through hell. To others it is fighting in a steamy jungle on some distant small piece of land you've never heard of, machine gun fire all around, just waiting for one of those jarring explosions to hit you, wading through dirty water, tripping and falling amongst the decaying rotting maggot infested corpses of fallen comrades from earlier days.
I do not think they experienced what soldiers overseas have experienced.

Lethal force is a last resort???
I get that if it was just an unruly mob who was waving middle fingers and shouting insults. But this was a horde that was ready to execute people. I realize that taking a life might be difficult, if that is the case then perhaps police or military is the wrong career for you. Unless you purely want to be a medic. Killing another is just part of the sacrifices that comes with being a soldier or a police. When an enemy is coming in with the intent to kill it is your duty to engage and destroy them.
And this was a mob that was ready to execute people was it not? Or did you speak a bit extreme? Because if you are correct in the mob's intent I really don't know how you can say lethal force would not have been justified. When the barbarians are charging the gates you mow them down as fast as you can!

You're worried about future conflicts with armed rioters. You want to know how to prevent that, kill the hell out of the first wave and crush any dissent.
I thought these guys had guns and bombs? Why didn't they fight like they meant business and mow the police down in a hail of gunfire? Why threaten the police with their guns they took away when the rioters had their own guns? And again, if they had guns and bombs why were they not being shot down in droves, it's the US capitol for crying out-loud!

"Like the secret service did"
Explain please, I wasn't aware they piled up the bodies.

Because they were white.

From the game Ryse Son of Rome, when you find out not all enemies are outside of Rome.