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no conservative can answer this | IF "LIBERAL DEMOCRATS" WERE THE ONES WHO SECEDED; WHY DO
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS
FLY THE CONFEDERATE FLAG? | image tagged in memes,hide the pain harold,confederate flag,civil war,conservative hypocrisy,qanon | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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trump republicans and guns | HYPOCRISY IS A VIRTUE WHEN WE DO IT! | image tagged in trump republicans and guns | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Things that make you go hmmm | image tagged in things that make you go hmmm | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Point of historical contention that actually makes this even funnier; it's not the Confederate flag. It's the signature Traitor's Emotional Support Flag created after the war's conclusion.
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Keep these symbols in mind. | image tagged in capitol hill riot groups insignia | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Things to keep in mind when they’re trying to shove “racist ideology” and “the Confederacy” onto Democrats
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The Gadsden flag is NOT a supremacist symbol, WTF are you on about???
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I’m aware that the Gadsden flag is traditionally an expression of patriotism — meaning roughly, don’t tread on me, Brits.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

However, the meanings of symbols are not fixed but change over time and when reclaimed and reappropriated!

Most famous example: The Swastika. Started as a Hindu symbol of divinity, was dragged through the mud by the Nazis and turned into the white supremacist hate symbol that most of us in Europe and America know it as today.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

Is the Gadsden Flag undergoing a similar shift, from modern-day white supremacists stealing the valor of the Continental Army several centuries ago that first carried it? Nobody seriously uses the Gadsden Flag to ward off the Brits anymore, that’s for sure. Is it now a flag intended to ward off Democrats?

And can the Gadsden Flag be tarnished by association with the Confederate Flag as it was on Jan. 6?

Indeed, can the American flag itself be tarnished by association with these traitors?

Things to consider
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Even though I agree symbols change, I'd argue no. The Gadsden Flag has always had a clear message; the state should not exercise overwhelming (not "any", but "overwhelming") power over its citizens. The idiots flying it clearly thought the state had crossed this line, but we with common sense know it didn't.

Therefore I contend that the flying of the flag reflects more on the mental acuity (or rather lack thereof) of those flying it than any move to change the meaning of the flag.
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WTF
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actually I dont, they are pretty cool, just seemed like a good meme for this.
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emotional support flag?
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That flag was designed after the C.S.A had ceased to exist. It doesn't even represent the C.S.A as a nation, but worse; it was the emblem of the bitter diehards who wanted to bring it back.

In short, if you fly that flag and claim it as part of your heritage, the only possible heritage it can represent is the hatred of the KKK and similar groups.
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i think conservatards who believe this are so spun on faith in god that no matter the evidence, they will reject anything that doesn't fit the narrative.
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“Liberals” would never be for slavery. It’s justified in the Bible, the “conservative” playbook when it suits their narrative.
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Wrong. Liberal democrats didn't secede. Conservative democrats seceded.
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And they moved to the Republican Party.
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Irrelevant. I'm just pointing out the first part of the meme could be better.
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But this is what conservatives accuse liberals of being - confederates. You could always make a corrected version of the meme if you want to go down this rabbit hole :)
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Nah, I'm good. I just enjoy seeing you make some variation of this every week and almost always getting at least one historical detail wrong.
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Conservatives seceded. Change my mind.
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They did. You're not wrong. Conservative Democrats.
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As I said, conservatives.
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Right, but these were 1860's conservatives. The political spectrum has shifted so far since then that the liberals of that time are hard conservatives today. Anyone who actually agrees with 1860's conservatives is legitimately a far-right extremist, not anything found on mainline conservative/liberal scale.
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Qanon are today's conservative secessionists.
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And nigh-irrelevant in terms of real power. Why treat them otherwise?
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When asking those who fly the confederate flag but are Republicans, the most common answers have nothing to do with racism at all, they say they became Republicans because the Democratic party stopped being the patriotic and christian party.

https://youtu.be/FpKwR8j6zMw
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So why don't Democrats fly the Confederate flag?
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Because the Democrat party stopped being the party of patriotism, nationalism, and christianity, meaning that those who fly the confederate flag left the party.
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So to support patriotism, nationalism, and christianity, one must fly the flag of the klan/slavery/seccessionism?
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Well, most of them left the Democrat party that is. Robert Byrd, 20 of the 21 Democrat senators who opposed the ‘64 civil rights act, and others did stay in the Democrat party until they died.
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The confederate president was a democrat……………..democrats: oh we don’t talk about that…………. The kkk was founded by a Democrats: we don’t talk about that….
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Oops typo
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back when dixiecrats were conservative.
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