Freedom ain't free part 2

Note to the mods: this isn't a violation of mudslinging rule. It may contain content from other streams, but is DEFINITELY NOT using that content for mudslinging purposes.

It's ok I understand and will not take down your meme.

Thank you.

Can you please vote on this: https://imgflip.com/i/5gw763

I 100% agree with your statement. Dark humor certainly isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it is one of the biggest subgenres of meme culture. While I can't say in good faith that I support RichardChill's joke, he does have every right to make the joke as far as sitewide mods are concerned, as long as it doesn't violate ToS. And considering IG is basically consolidating power and declaring open season against his political enemies, I don't exactly blame Richard for not being "professional". I think way too many people see Imgflip Presidents as something serious and maybe a potential path to actual power across Imgflip instead of the fun roleplay it's meant to be. I ask you: how many of you are actually having fun doing this nonsensical drama? How exactly is this supposed to be fun for anyone? If this keeps going on this, it will only drive people away from this stream or even start competitor streams.

In IG's defense, He's very immature
He made the IRA as Kami said, To take shots at IG
Then when IG reacted he milked tf out of it

Didn't this stream have a whole assassinations roleplay? But Richard roleplaying as a revolutionary group is crossing the line? As Joe Biden would say, "Come on, man".

He said it because the group he picked was offensive to his culture

From a certain point of view maybe, but the truth with history is that it is a lot more complicated than what one side usually lets on. From the British perspective, the IRA are terrorists, after all, they revolted against British rule in Ireland. The problem with only looking at a British perspective is that you ignore the perspective of the Irish as well as the international community. For the Irish, the IRA are freedom fighters who stood up against British oppression, similarly to how the US views their own revolution against the British, and liberated most of their island. Both sides have certainly committed their fair share of atrocities, and no side is truly innocent, but it is a lot more complicated than just one person saying one group are terrorists. In order to truly understand history, one must study all its aspects, not just the narrow view of one side of a conflict. I won't tell you what you must think about a certain topic, I think it's important that you study the topic yourself and come to your own conclusions. I'll leave some links for you and anyone else interested in researching this topic yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_War_of_Independence

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/the-irish-war-of-independence-as-seen-by-the-international-press-1.4193775

https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour/finest-hour-143/why-ireland-won-the-war-from-the-irish-side/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/opinion/how-the-irish-won-their-freedom.html

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cabinetpapers/themes/nationalism-war-independence.htm

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I was against the assassination program because everyone used it to take shots at me

I didn’t follow the stream that closely then, but saw people were being assassinated and was kinda freaked out by it

Yeah, I don’t think that was a good thing to model, even in a roleplay sense

If you must: Why not call it incapacitated? (Since that’s actually what it was?) Or nightsticked? Or just plain bonked on the head? 🤷‍♂️

Thank you.

that fun facts with richard meme is hilarious

Mustard cured my stoopidity!

mine to!

Thaz wyy I see smort!

Sorry but the amount of text jumbled around here just confuses me

Yeah this is some Political BS.
Short version: some people on this stream don't have a sense of humor.

ok thank you

I understand that Richard's memes could have been interpreted as "dark humour", but there are limits for obvious reasons. As a conservative I also support freedom of speech, and Richard should be allowed to post as many of his disgusting anti-English memes as he pleases. But posting photos of the Irish Republican Army and organising a terrorist/militia group named the IRA crosses the line. The Irish Republican Army is a terrorist group that has killed British people, and Richard targeted this content towards me, a British person. And as better_call_sloth- pointed out, "he chose to do so at a time when Brexit has injected more political instability into the tense Irish/Northern Irish situation than it has had in decades". Richard has also refrained from expressing any form of remorse for his abhorrent actions, and it is possible that the reluctance to counter this behaviour we have seen from Envoy will only encourage him to continue this insanity as he grows confident he can get away with anything.

Richard will be Hoist with his own petard.
He's been nothing but trouble all week.
And whatever punishment he received will be on his own head.
But you've violated every single aspect of constitutional law to get here.
●A joke isn't a threat, even I'd you don't get it. And there's exactly 0% chance you're actually offended by IRA references. Your skin isn't that thin. You pulled the classic leftist trick: "You hurt my feelings so I get to censor you because you're my political opponent!" It's shameful for a purported conservative to cry 'freedom of speech' 6 days a week and pretend to be upset over a joke on the 7th.
●If you actually believed it was anything real you woulda offered Richard a fair trail and the opportunity to put together a defense. The only reason you had to sneak around with the world's shortest micro trail was that you knew it was the only way you'd get a guilty verdict. You can't try someone without a crime. Dark humor isn't a crime. Richard only pled guilty because you can't have a trail if you don't have a crime. He was mocking the kangaroo court.
●As soon as the stream owner found out you were trying to circumvent DUE PROCESS, the most sacred American legal rule, he voided the trail. Instead of holding an actual legal trial, you tried to pass a constitutional amendment to eliminate the need for a fair trail. (This amendment likely won't hold up under judicial scrutiny, as it defacto eliminates the judicial and executive branches, but you did try to pass it.) You literally tried to retroactively rewrite the law to rob someone of due process.
●When that failed: you went and got, not a global mod or a sitewide mod or a conservative lawyer or constitutionist to back you up and teach us about the TOS. You couldn't find one. Your backup: a liberal troll that hates Richard almost half as much as she hates Trumpy.
You got the right result: Richard acts bad and gets banned. Good.
But you had to spit in the face of free speech, due process, rule of law & everything conservatives hold sacred to do so.

Hah. I love me some dark humor. I post to that dark_humour stream frequently. Believe me, I get it.

But like any other kind of humor, you have to read the room.

Here I’m cracking an old joke using an image of Nicholás Maduro, one of the most atrocious leaders in the Western Hemisphere who has led millions into poverty and starvation. I’ve cracked jokes featuring Hitler and Stalin in various places on Imgflip, typically streams set aside for and clearly labeled for that purpose so people who don’t wanna see it don’t have to.

But would I start running a dark Nazi-themed campaign here after all the trouble this stream has had with WhiteNats and the fact at least one of the people who’s used this stream (Beez, and probably others) is Jewish? No, I wouldn’t.

Like that global mod said in that screencap, it’s all about context. Do jokes about the IRA violate terms in this context because one of the most active users here on this stream is British and has registered a loud objection to them? Personally, I think so. But ultimately, that’s a question for this stream’s mods elected by the democratic process.

And in this case, those mods answered in the affirmative. RC’s plan to roleplay here with IRA imagery crossed a line.

I can certainly see that point and appreciate your opinion.
However not understanding a joke doesn't mean it's not a joke.
Not liking the joke doesn't mean it's a crime.
And incognito knows this which is why he held a 12 minute speedy trial instead of a days long affair like we had FOR INCOGNITO WHEN HE GOT IN TROUBLE for making (supposedly?) offensive memes. (There was nothing wrong with em as far as I know.)
If anyone on this stream actually believed the original joke was a threat, they would have offered Richard the chance to get a defense team and not snuck around behind the owner's back with the world's fastest micro trial.
Remember: if you can railroad a bad guy, you can railroad a good guy. So nobody's safe.

Oh believe me, I know. I was railroaded more times than I can count!

Well, nevermind. I can count them. It wasn’t that many. It was 2. Or was it 3? Ah, hell. Something like that. Certainly only need one hand to count.

I’ve been back on the stream less than 24 hours and I’m already checking my watch for the hour the mob comes after me for the third or would it be fourth time.

Live by the railroad, die by the railroad. I suppose. Name of the game around here!

Politics. Backstabbing. Plotting. Intrigue. They are certainly things that happen around here.

But to be less flippant about it… yes, when IG got around to presenting the evidence I found it was tidy and logical.

And to that end: If it came to my attention that anyone using this stream is a Venezuelan refugee who’s been impacted by Maduro’s atrocious government, I wouldn’t hesitate to simply stop using Maduro and re-do that joke with a different guy. It’s outstandingly easy to do.

There have been hundreds of terrorist/liberation armies in the world. Richard went out of his way to pick the IRA because he doesn’t like IG and was looking to provoke him. To me, it’s quite obvious.

And that’s what makes what might be an otherwise acceptable dark humor joke out-of-bounds for this roleplay.

Preach