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99.5% of Americans currently dying from Covid didn’t get the shot. Sad!

99.5% of Americans currently dying from Covid didn’t get the shot. Sad! | image tagged in darwin award,vaccinations,covid-19,vaccines,vaccine,coronavirus | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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5 ups, 3y,
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1 up, 3y,
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Where are you getting that?
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3 ups, 3y,
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The CDC website
1 up, 3y,
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Show me exactly.
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3 ups, 3y,
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You have a computer and/or a phone. Look it up.
1 up, 3y,
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Kill yourself nope guy | image tagged in kill yourself nope guy | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
I respectfully decline to go on a wild goose chance hunting for your made-up BS on an entire domain.

We’re not playing that game.

You put forth a proposition. You bear the burden of proof. Prove it.
3 ups, 3y,
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According to coronavirus data from the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services, there have been more than 992,000 COVID-19 cases statewide since the pandemic's start. To date, there have been close to 13,000 coronavirus-related deaths.

That would make the percentage of infections resulting in survival close to 99%.

Numbers vary depending on which state dataset you look at. For example, New York inflated the death tally by purposefully sending infected into nursing homes. So, your chances of survival in New York are much less than virtually anywhere else - but that kind of sums up the New York experience - doesn't it.

CDC has data, but they don't display it intuitively - it's almost as if they want the size of the numbers to be scary, because if you look at it on a per-capita or percentage basis, the numbers are very tame.

Using datasets collected by ourworldindata.org (their source is Johns Hopkins University), it's more easily visualized, although this dataset does not break down age groups - which have wildly different mortality rates.

https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid?country=~USA

This dataset shows mortality for all age groups at 1.7%, but as we all know, the elderly are at higher risk than virtually any other age group. Then one must consider the incentive to inflate the mortality rate. Hospitals were given incentive to claim every death as a COVID death, which is why the influenza death numbers are nearly non-existent.

There are reports of death certificates from auto accidents listing COVID-19 as the cause of death - so, that 1.7% number is most definitely lower in reality. Additionally, this dataset does not include the undiagnosed cases, which would further lower the mortality rate percentage.

But, you can keep on being frightened. It is, after all, the place you're most comfortable.
2 ups, 3y,
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I’m aware of the 99% survival rate. I’ve been aware of it for well over a year.

Statistically speaking however, with a “99% survival rate,” if 300+ million unvaccinated Americans had contracted Covid, then 3+ million Americans would have died of it. Maybe not you, but someone you love. If that didn’t concern you, I can’t help you.

Thanks to mitigation measures and vaccines, in reality, we kept the toll to about 600,000. Still a staggering number.

A much more staggering number than the 3 who have died of Covid vaccine blood clots. Lol!

You’re also ignoring mysterious “long Covid” symptoms among survivors that vary in severity and duration, and could be with some unlucky people for the rest of their lives.

Hands down, it’s better to take the minimal efforts needed to mask up, distance, and get the vaccine. Yes, even if you’ve already had Covid, it’s recommended.

You wanna run the risk anyway? Fine. But don’t Karenize others with your silly anti-vax propaganda.
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3 ups, 3y
Here are some stats that I collected from two sources.

The global population came from: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
The COVID-19 stats came from: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The COVID-19 stats are of today, July 9th, 2021.

7,878,232,607 World population
185,922,491 July 9th COVID-19 cases worldwide
4,016,147 July 9th COVID-19 deaths worldwide

2.36% Percent of the world who got COVID-19
2.16% Percent of the world who had COVID-19 and died from it
97.84% Percent of the world who had COVID-19 and recovered from it
0.05% Percent of the global population who died from COVID-19

Essentially if you do not have COVID-19 right now you have a 0.05% of getting and dying from it. You have a 2.36% chance of getting it and after you get it you then have a 97.84% chance of recovering from it.

In my previous post I said that you have a 99.6% chance of surviving it. That was before I did the math on the most recent worldwide stats that I could find. Even so 97.84% is still a significantly higher survival rate than the scare mongers would have you believe.

If you do not have COVID-19 then your chances of dying from it are 0.05% which means we all have a 99.95% survival rate.
2 ups, 3y
Everyone that I know who has caught it - recovered quickly. That's about 3 dozen people, from teens to my mother in her 80's. It was a bad cough for about a week.

Also, your "Long COVID" has been described by medical professionals as taking longer to recover from - not that there is no recovery or that the symptoms are permanent - but that it takes longer to recover from. Amazingly, that falls in line with EVERY OTHER ILLNESS ON THE PLANET. Some people recover quickly, others recover slowly.

Your wild claims of "you gonna die redneck anti-vaxxer!" are what I take issue with. The statistics don't reflect that notion - not even close.
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2 ups, 3y,
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

You'll probably argue that it says that deaths are rare. But so are the actual covid deaths. CDC admitted to hyping up their numbers and included any death of someone who had contracted covid to be a covid death. Including suicide (you can find those reports on their website too, but you're probably too lazy to do any sort of research yourself.) I'll take my chances with a virus that isnt likely to kill me, and even by the marginally slim chance I do get it, I'll get better and have lifetime immunity. Unlike those that get the experimental vaccine.
Until all you lab rats have shown that this vaccine is safe (which it isn't) and there are no long term effects (which they dont know) I'm not getting it.
3 ups, 3y
1 up, 3y,
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You invoke the fuzzy concept of miscounted Covid deaths, although real research says that if anything, the official tally was prone to undercounting.

Regardless, if you’re going to “go there” with Covid deaths, then you also need to go there with Covid vaccine deaths.

It’s true, as far as it goes, that thousands (approximately 5,200) have died after receiving the Covid vaccine. However, the Covid vaccine itself was not pinpointed as the cause in the vast majority of those deaths. In particular: Covid infections that “break through” the protection a vaccine provides are still *Covid* deaths.

Still Covid deaths! Why? Because a Covid infection caused the death. They therefore died in spite of the vaccine, not because of it.

Vaccines are not 100% effective at preventing Covid. No one ever said they were. It’s still better to get them.

There’s only *one* notable exception where deaths can be directly attributable to the vaccine rather than Covid, and that is the very rare blood clotting complication (3 deaths from this in the U.S.).

Three deaths!
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3 ups, 3y
As someone so eloquently stated on your image:
"Since the shit is altering your body..

Dying of cancer and blaming COVID is different than dying of a blood clot created by a supposed 'vaccine'.

Since the values have been padded, it is difficult to tell how many actually died of Covid. What I mean by that is.. those that died with just Covid. Period. Not Stage 4 Cancer, a motorcycle accident, or a gun shot victim. Actual Covid deaths.. I can tell you with high confidence, it isn't as many as they would like us to believe.

As far as the blood clots. We'd have to look at VAERS data. We are at 9,048 reported murders by the vaccine as of July 2nd. I suspect there are far more unreported events out there."
1 up, 3y,
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Better! And now you see why I insisted on a citation. Because I know what the CDC has to say on this.

You cited a page that says LOUD AND CLEAR that the vaccine Is safe and effective.

Everything you’re saying about the vaccine flatly contradicts the CDC’s position on this. So that’s the first thing.

As for your other logical fallacies…
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2 ups, 3y,
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Laziness is strong with you, isnt it? Didnt scroll down. It is not safe and effective if it has multiple different cases of reactions to it.
It's also NOT FDA approved
1 up, 3y,
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I cropped it out because it’s irrelevant. Irrelevant information isn’t worth highlighting.

Yes, there were 3 blood clot deaths in about .000005% of vaccines administered.

By your own logic, focusing on Covid’s “99% survival rate,” such a minuscule percentage is beyond irrelevant.
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3 ups, 3y
I was trying to respond, but you deleted/ changed your comment.
Threat of covid itself? Close to nil. I've known several people to get it from all over the country. People who have been exposed (including myself) but didnt get it. My mom is the chief nurse at a hospital in Colorado. Collectively we have known of ZERO actual covid caused deaths.
Like I stated earlier, the death number is inflated. Actual covid CAUSED death is around 13k out of the (dont know exact number) 900 million infected? Including those who got the virus and didn't get it.
Now, you say that even if you get the vaccine you still need to mask up, sanitize and social distance right? MASKS DONT WORK against a virus with a .13 micron size when the n95 only protects against a .3 micron. Sneezes travel up to 20 feet, coughs up to 10, so 6ft is bs. Antibacterial soap dont really work against viruses. Same with sanitizer.
Also, wearing a mask continously, and fidgeting with it like everyone does only causes a petri dish held to face that can cause tb and pneumonia.
Like I said, I'll take my chances
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4 ups, 3y
That sound scary until you realize that before the shot was available people had a 99.6% survival rate from COVID.

So basically when you say that 99.5% who are dying from COVID you are starting off with a very, very, small number of people from whom you are trying to scare a very, very, very, large number of people.

The reality of the matter, vaccine or no vaccine, only a extremely small number of people will die from this. I am not saying that this isn't a tragedy that people are dying from COVID. Don't misunderstand that. What I am saying is that you are much likely to die from a drunk driver than from COVID. If we treated drunk driving like we treated COVID we would have impounded everyone's car (even if they don't drink) and closed all of the roads.

It is tragic when anyone dies but it is also an inescapable part of life.
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