But That's None Of My Business

And people who vote for the Confederate's political party. Right?
The party that created the Klan, the Democrats. Right?
Those people would be asshole shit eating traitors. Right?

You sound very emotional. I hope I haven’t offended or triggered you. Voting Republican does not exonerate the actions of yours, or anyone’s, ancestors just as voting Democrat does not mean they support the Confederacy.

Only if those Democrats or Republicans are still pushing for segregation, slavery, and supremacy would I call them shit eating traitors who are assholes. Not all do, nor do Republicans. A typical Republican usually has the perspective that the people today are not accountable for those of the past. But they are certainly responsible in what they do with the legislation and other ramifications leftover from that time.

My premise is pretty simple Confederates aren’t heroes. The statement isn’t really a political one but it appears to be so for some people who cannot simply divorce the actions of their ancestors from their own heritage.

I usually try hard not to generalize but it’s kinda important to remember that the South lost and vilifying their legacy, the Democratic Party, while calling their soldiers, the Confederates, heroes seems counterproductive and disgraceful for someone who believes in personal individual responsibility.

I’m from the south.

So I know what I’m talking about.

You are not responsible for your peers, nor your ancestors. Lest every drug dealer and gang banger in Chicago make my judgments for everyone who resembles them or is related to them. Take emotion out of it, nobody owes you anything.

“That's the problem with socialist mindsets, you forsake the individual for the herd(party). You speak for no one hit yourself, no one is responsible for you but you, as you are responsible for no one else, past present or future.”

Lol, you didn’t read a word I said.

Spot on. However, I definitely skimmed most of it.

Are you saying you're a drug dealer and gangbanger?

My peers are Republicans and when they say stupid shit, like calling confederates heroes, I call them out for it.

And I'm absolutely responsible for what my peers say. Especially if I intend for Republicans to be re-elected. If the dumb shit drowns out the reasonable ones, then we all suffer.

If that's the reality you choose, but it's far from actuality. You can call them anything you want, however it doesn't make your perspective apex, merely another viewpoint spouting off in a sea social justice warriors

Having a different opinion doesn’t make one a social justice warrior or insignificant. Nor does refusing to go with the hive mind of partisan bullshit make my opinion apex. Partisanship rarely relies on facts to support their claim because to them everything is spin. I’m just done with being spun around back where I started.

Speaking of which, let’s get this back on topic. Confederates were traitors, that’s not a social justice opinion, it’s a fact. My opinion is that only traitors would consider them heroes. Hardly much of a mental leap. If you have nothing to comment on that then we’re done.

Or would you like to continue to spout vague discrepancies to my analysis that allude to some kind of point you’re pretending you have?

It's your opinion that they were traitors, and that short-sighted nature is not conducive to constructive dialogue. One thing is sure, you have a little man complex

Stating facts doesn’t make me domineering in social situations. We went to war with the people who rebelled against our country. Typically people who rebel are called traitors, and while they were given amnesty, that doesn’t leave much room to call them heroes after the fact. I suggest you refrain from trying to make the argument about me or you and keep to the argument. It’s not conducive to constructive dialogue that you so desire.

That's the thing, it's been about you and I. More specifically that we disagree as to what level of responsibility we have for our ancestors, and/or peers

In what way? You’ve not made much clear about that other than you disagree but with what? I’ve said:

“ Voting Republican does not exonerate the actions of yours, or anyone’s, ancestors.

A typical Republican usually has the perspective that the people today are not accountable for those of the past. But they are certainly responsible in what they do with the legislation and other ramifications leftover from that time.”

And I assume you’re trying to frame those statements as me supporting reparations while I’m actually saying I don’t.

Reparations has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.

The arguement of the current constitutionalists is anti-liberalism. That is where Republicans should know better as these were the same arguments used by those who later seceded from the Union a century and half ago. They disagreed with legislation that these saw was antithetical to the overall stability of the country and the south in general. They too claimed to be fierce fundamentalist supporters of the constitution before essentially ripping it up and rewriting it.

Not unlike those that invaded the Capitol on January 6th and waved that confederate flag. Civil war is where fierce fundamentalism leads if they cannot suppress or discredit the advancement of those others who have different opinions. Too many Southerners who are voting Republican now are not too different from the people who would’ve voted Democrat in the late 19th century and the early 20th century, who would’ve supported the likes of Thurmond and Wallace. They are only responsible for their current actions, yes I agree, but as I also said, voting Republican does not exonerate your current actions.

If you don’t want to pay reparations, then make your case without vilifying those who believe themselves victims. If you think you cannot reason with those you disagree with then you are only admitting defeat and will end up begrudgingly paying for the check.

Or worse, giving them metaphorical ammunition to celebrate their future vindication. This is why I don’t support reducing the Republican Party into a bunch of partisan trolls. In the long run, it only benefits the liberals by making ourselves into the villains in their story.

And they are controlling the narrative. It’s not too late to change it. You don’t do that by pretending to be the silent majority.

That's the problem with socialist mindsets, you forsake the individual for the herd(party). You speak for no one hit yourself, no one is responsible for you but you, as you are responsible for no one else, past present or future.