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... Are you trying to imply something by showing that there were no covid-19 vaccine deaths before there was a vaccine?

So you don't know how to read graphs?

VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.

This chart shows the total vaccine deaths by year since 1990.

That's all vaccines. The 2020 starts the spike, when the covid19 vaccine was introduced - Those are all covid19 vaccine deaths.

I misread the graph. I admit it. However:
The higher numbers are because of the emergency authorization. Under an emergency authorizing, all deaths must be reported and then investigated. Normally, reporting is at the full discretion of the doctor. Subsequent investigation has found the vaccine to be the cause in only a few cases.

And you believe that?

Were you dumb enough to take a vaccine that hasn't been approved by the FDA?

So you find that the total combined vaccine related deaths for ALL vaccines administered in the US going from hundreds per year to thousands (so far) is no cause for concern?
Even though the experimental vaccine for COVID is only 80% effective and meant to prevent a disease with a 99% survival rate, which is likely to go up now that the government is no longer blocking effective treatments for political reasons?
All of that makes sense to you?

Since everything you just said is slightly inaccurate, no.

The vaccine has a much lower fatality rate than you are implying. Even if all the cases reported were caused by the vaccine, that's a 99.9983% survival rate. But it's actually much better than that. Normally reporting is optional, but vaers is required for all deaths under emergency auth regardless of doctors opinion and subsequent review shows very few were vaccine related.

"More than 302 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through June 7, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 5,208 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths."

As to covid, the case fatality rate varies by age group but is about 1.9% overall. So 98% survival rate.

https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/23510/estimated-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccine-candidates/

Moderna and pfizer are rated at 94% effective. J&J is lower. Maybe 80% is the average?

Government blocking treatments - 🐂💩

Everything I said is fact, as per the CDC.
Your magical combination of mental gymnastics and word vomit cannot change that.

The COVID vaccine has killed more healthy Americans than all other vaccines combined, including those given to virtually every baby born in our country.
Moreover, considering we have no concept of what the long term impact of the vaccine will be, the number of people killed by the vaccine is likely to go up.
Best of all, those people all died for a vaccine that has a failure rate of ~20% for a disease with a survival rate of 99%, which is likely to increase as we become more adept at treating it.
Then, to add insult to injury, we now know that on average people who "died of COVID" had at least 4 other pre-existing medical conditions.
When COVID mortality is examined further, we see that less than 5% of COVID deaths are actually caused by COVID.
COVID-19 was never as deadly as we were lead to believe and the misdirection was intentional; that is why they were counting gunshots, motor vehicle accidents, hospice patients, and the like among COVID deaths.
If you still don't believe any of that, look at the annual mortality for the United States and the world, neither showed any significant change, despite a supposed pandemic raging across the globe.

Let me end by giving you some very important advice: do not trust your government.
Governments do not operate from a position of benevolence because it does not server their interests.
Leaders care about money and power, both of which they get more of by assuming greater control over their citizens.
A majority of politicians view human beings as nothing more than commodities; the sooner you accept that, the more accurate your worldview will become.

Well, let me site my sources then:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
302 million doses -> 5,208 reported deaths in VAERS, though the confirmed number is significantly less.

Even ignoring that the CFR with COVID is double what you are saying and the vaccine related deaths are significantly less, we can look at your numbers: if 1 million people got the COVID vaccine and were dying at the rate in VAERS, that is 17 deaths

Currently just over 10% of the population has had COVID - 34.3 million cases.

So, .05=5% catch it, .01 = 1% die, .2% ineffective vaccines (80% effective=20% ineffective)

No Vaccine -> 500 deaths (1 Million *.05*.01)
Vaccine -> 117 Deaths (17 vaccine related + 100 COVID (1 Million *.05*.01*.2)

To go hypothetical and look at the claim that rates would go down on COVID deaths, if we said COVID treatments get much more effective and cut the death rate in two it drops from 1% .5%.

No Vaccine: 250 deaths (1million * .05 * .005)
Vaccine: 67 deaths (17 vaccine related + 50 COVID (1 Million *.05*.005*.2)

As far as long term side effects -> we don't know about long term side effects of COVID either.

So your comfortable with unprecedented number of deaths, as well as other serious complications, associated with a novel vaccine that is only partially effective against a virus with an extremely high survival rate?
Because nothing you posted disproves any of that.

I wonder, are you also comfortable with the fact that the same CDC that has been counting gunshots, motor vehicle accidents, cancer, AIDS, and other unrelated forms of mortality as COVID deaths to pump up the mortality rate, now wants to downplay the deaths of healthy people who die after receiving the COVID vaccine?

Because as someone who has actually taught epidemiology and biostatistics, I can tell you there is nothing mathematically, scientifically, or logically sound about what the NIH and CDC have been doing, nor what they have been telling the American people.

I used the numbers you provided (even though they are wrong) to show that the death rate is lower with the vaccine. And again, that is with your numbers which elevate the number of vaccine deaths and lowers the fatality rate.

So, by showing what the deaths would be like if the percentages you provided were true, I haven't proven anything.

The CDC counts all deaths with a positive COVID diagnosis as part of daily totals and trend analysis because for the short term, speed over accuracy. However, final numbers are derived from death certificate information and the cause of death there is determined by the medical examiner or other medical personnel authorized to fill that out. If the medical examiner says it was AIDS, it was AIDS, not COVID.

You provided nothing that alters the fact that the only potential (potential because we don't know long-term how many people will be maimed or killed by the vaccine) benefit of the vaccine are for the highest risk groups; i.e. the elderly, obese, individuals with chronic respiratory issues, etc...
You are attempting to use statistics that you do not understand to justify an opinion someone else fed you.
Healthy children have virtually no chance of dying from COVID, yet you somehow think exposing them to death, cardiovascular complications, and many other health problems is a net positive.
Put in its simplest terms, that is batshit crazy.
For the vast majority of healthy individuals, the lower and better understood risk lies in acquiring immunity naturally.
Moreover, alarms bells should go off in that tiny head of your when the gods you worship at the CDC and NIH advocate for individuals who already developed immunity to COVID by having the infection get vaccinated.
Telling someone with an existing immunity to get an experimental and dangerous vaccine they do not need is not logically or scientifically valid.
That, if nothing else, should get you to wake up to the fact that the push for the vaccine, with all its promises of free donuts, burger, and cash prizes, is not motivated by anything to do with disease prevention or saving lives.

Weird how Trump is telling everyone to get the vaccine now...

If I don't understand the statistics, please point me to where I made a mistake. Please be specific.

Immunity isn't always permanent. There is a reason we get a tetanus vaccine every 10 years. They don't know yet how long either acquired immunity or vaccinated immunity will last with COVID. I imagine the recommendation is better safe than sorry.

COVID has had some strange side effects on children. Not a huge number, but why would a vaccine that used mRNA (like a virus) be any more scary than the virus itself? Vaccines work by triggering your immune response.