The US is a failed state which killed at least 600K of its own citizens.

441 views • 4 upvotes • Made by SoyChad 4 years ago in politics
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WiseCracker
2 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Hmmm...how could their numbers possibly be lower than ours?
TheAntihero
2 ups, 4y
SoyChad
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
they did an actual meaningful public health response.
[deleted]
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
Actually they just lied about the numbers and since they long ago purchased the loyalty of the WHO . . . they got away with it while hysterical leftist accused Trump of racism and SHRIEKED, "Orange Man Bad!"  The Left and China OWNS these deaths.
SoyChad
1 up, 4y
You have nothing but shit between your ears.  You literally cannot process the fact that your govt is incompetent and left you to die while China's rose to the challenge.
TheAntihero
2 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Skullford
3 ups, 4y, 2 replies
I don't believe in punch a nazi, but the left says it all the time. Since Mao killed way more what do they suggest we do with commies?
TheAntihero
3 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Yeah I don't believe in that either, Nazis, real Nazis, should be talked to and debated with, before punching or worse. But yeah, the Left and commies have killed far more people. How they get around this issue of violence is nuts.
SoyChad
1 up, 4y, 2 replies
You cannot debate with a fascist.  There was no diplomatic solution to Hitler he had to be crushed by the Red army.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
That Red army probably committed the worse raping in world history, absolutely disgusting.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 2 replies
The only people the Red army killed were Nazis.  I have seen no evidence anywhere of them committing Mass rape.  The United States forces in Japan on the other hand are well documented as mass rapists.  You are literally out of touch with reality but it is not surprising given the propagandization of the citizenry of the United States.
TheAntihero
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
https://www.eiu.edu/historia/Thomas.pdf  



This article would say otherwise. Your glorious Red Army were just brutes and committed a mass rape of German women. Unfortunately, some Americans also took part in this filthy business, as have all armies throughout history. However, I'm sure you'll just say this is Nazi propaganda.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
that book cites one source for that claim, a newsmax article which itself has sparse sourcing

https://www.newsmax.com/pre-2008/red-army-raped-every/2002/05/02/id/666772/
TheAntihero
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
I read about it other places too, but I don't think you would believe it.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
I just wanna see good sourcing.
TheAntihero
0 ups, 4y
got yeah
Wubbzymon
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
1932-1933 Ukraine
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
That's literally Nazi Propaganda.
Wubbzymon
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
The Nazi's were bad but the Soviets were also, ever realized how communism makes the government people very rich and the common person dirt poor
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Also untrue.  The governmental apartments under Stalin were not much bigger than those of everyone else.  The capitalist ruling classes have platial estates.  Everything you learned in school or from the western press about communism is a lie.
Wubbzymon
0 ups, 4y
And where would you be from? If you love communism so much live in a communist country
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
I do not have the money to leave and the United States will not let me because I am in so much student debt.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 2 replies
Why? I'm debating with you, whom I think is just as ideologically bad. You're not, your ideas are; big difference.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Ah yes the double genocide myth.  It's literally Nazi Propaganda.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
You should watch this movie, it was made by a Russian. I'm sure it's just a stupid Nazi movie to you though.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Oh look revisionist tripe.  You do know that the Red army liberated the Jews from Hitler and the United States allied with Hitler and permitted United States businesses to engage in trade with his murderous government, right?



You should read the book trading with the Enemy.  United States subsidiary companies were formed to circumvent the ban once it went into effect.  The relationship between Nazi Germany and the United States industrial class is deep and incestuous.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
Of course I know that. I sure as hell don't agree with everything (many things) the United States has done. But so what? And revisionist tripe? Have you watched it? How do you know that? It was made a Russian, not American
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 4 replies
Because the movies description represents a historical events.  The Bolsheviks had a substantial number of Jewish members and yet this movie is presenting them as antisemitic.  The people that the Bolsheviks went to war against were the Tsarist ruling class.  I know my history enough to know a movie that is based upon fabrication and misrepresentation.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y
Actually, I'm aware of that. But the movie doesn't even mention that. In fact, the people in the movie doing the killing are Russians; there're only one scene with Jews, and they die with the Christians by the blood thirsty hands of the Bolsheviks.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y
which is historical
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
It's antisoviet propaganda, you dummy.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
*ahistorical events
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
https://youtu.be/ctp5a21Mtvs



Listen to Peter kuznick he's an expert
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
Simply untrue.
Skullford
2 ups, 4y, 1 reply
How to be a low level thinker like the OP.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 2 replies
it's a very significant piece of data.  700K dead americans.  Also, what about the graphs I posted?
Skullford
2 ups, 4y, 2 replies
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
I literally posted a graph about PPP you dummy.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
Cuz their wages go a lot farther cuz it's a low cost economy.  Also they didn't destroy their culture, you're thinking of the US.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
*600k.  correction my b
Skullford
2 ups, 4y, 1 reply
That's because people in charge listened to the moronic elite who can't useogic to come to real solutions. Instead we got mask up, keep 6 feet apart and wash your hands as a solution instead of keep old people home and everyone else build an immunity.



Also china welds motherf**kers doors closed if they get covid. If you want to live in one of the worst most disgusting society's good luck with that, but you aren't making this one communist. You can't even run your own life I bet.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
The solution was a swift and strict response.  China implemented it and has had covid totally under control after like 3 months.  That's the solution.  the rest of your comment is just cope and REEE.
Skullford
2 ups, 4y, 1 reply
The solution is to do the best within the bounds of liberty, not communist tyranny which you propose because you are sick or stupid.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
Oh yeah mainline that cope.  Shhh.  Don't think about the fact that your govt considers you as disposable as a tissue.  Sink back into that copium OD
[deleted]
2 ups, 4y, 1 reply
if you believe any information coming out of china, I have a bridge to see you...
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
keep smoking that cope.  This is the difference communism makes.
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SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
TheAntihero
2 ups, 4y, 1 reply
One could make the argument that China today is not necessarily a Communist country anymore.  Of course, it would depend on one's definition of "communism". They're almost today more Capitalist (another term that is hard to define) than we are. I read a book called Capitalism without Democracy; by Kellee S. Tsai, a really fascinating book by the way, discussing this very issue. However, China is completely totalitarian; which is definitely the Communism that we all know and recognize. This of course is why in situations such as Covid, the government can treat its people like practical slaves and make them do whatever they see fit. Totalitarianism is not pretty, but but it does get 'shit' done. Even if America was more socialist, that type of thing wouldn't work here; and thank god for that.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
If you read books written by idiots you're going to think stupid things.  The US is absolutely a totalitarian state.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 2 replies
You're impossible. That's your answer, to a well thought out comment, that didn't call a stupid commie?
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
*that didn't call you stupid
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Also you literally just called me stupid
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
I didn't call you stupid. Impossible, but not stupid
TheAntihero
0 ups, 4y, 2 replies
I had corrected my mistake,
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
You called me a stupid call me a stupid commie.
TheAntihero
0 ups, 4y
I did not, read my corrected sentence, it was a typo.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
It was not a well thought out answer it was a recapitulation of a book written by a political science Professor from the United States University.  The entire thing is dripping with "western" capitalistic ideology that you are essentially incapable of considering because it courses through your veins thicker than blood.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
How do you know I'm a Capitalist? There's a ton of differing ideas and theories about capitalism as there are about Marxism.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
It doesn't matter if you're a capitalist or not if you recapitulate the propaganda of capitalists.  you are there useful idiot even if you are not one.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y, 4 replies
One could say the same if you recapitulate the propaganda of Marxists.
TheAntihero
1 up, 4y
Economics is politics last time i checked
TheAntihero
0 ups, 4y
I've read parts of Das Capital, The Communist manifesto, Theses on Feuerbach and others I can't remember, it was a reader and a while ago; thank god:) I find Communism so materialistic and pretentious that it's a hard to read. The historical materialism is just laugh out loud funny and vomit inducing to be honest. I will admit I do like some of it though; the ideas of structuralism (though that was more his followers) is something I've looked into with great interest. Gramsci by far was the best of the Marxist writers (though that is Western Marxism to be specific) and a smart cookie too. I disagree with him, but I can respect his intellect. How many conservative writers have you read?
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
I haven't even mentioned Marx once.  Besides I am a Marxist.  His work was economic analysis it did not deal with political analysis of events so anyone talking about Marxist propaganda is full of shit.
SoyChad
0 ups, 4y
So you admit you have never read marx and know nothing about his work.
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