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Prove that each and every one was solely motivated by race and not exigent circumstances and maybe this meme will make sense.

Police murders don't have to be motivated by race to be unjustified and cruel.

Prove then that every police killing meets the legal definition of murder and not discharged of their duties to protect society.

If the system is to blame them Chauvin is innocent.

An analogy: catholic priests molested and abused children. The church shuffled them to other locations and roles where they often did it again and covered up the crimes. This was a systemic failure of the church leadership that in no way excuses the crimes committed by individual priests.

Systemic racism is why the DA had announced they might not even file charges (which is what started the riots, if you'll recall). He didn't think he could get a conviction even with a video causing international outrage.

The point is Chauvin is part of the system and if the system is racist then the individual is innocent because the system is guilty. The system isn’t racist and neither is America. Only those seeking preference and benefit believe so looking for a payday.

Those are some fun mental gymnastics. I think maybe the problem is you are arguing something you don't believe, based on something you think I believe. I don't believe that black people are innocent of any crimes they commit just because they had a raw deal.

If a racist system led to someone becoming a criminal, they are still responsible for their choices. But we want to identify and correct the issues to try and stop it in the future.

If Floyd was found guilty of crimes that far, he should go to jail. He can't because he's dead. It's not an either or situation.

Chauvin is guilty of being a shitty cop but that doesn’t mean he is racist. If the system is racist then he personally can’t be responsible because the system is responsible for managing him. Isn’t that what the Public Defenders use? He’s not guilty because he was underprivileged in a racist society. So then, if the system is racist how can he be guilty. He is simply a product of the system. The fact is there was no racism proven and it’s not even a question of race. It’s a question of police brutality or maybe personal grudge as they knew each other and worked together.

Whether he was a racist himself is irrelevant.

"If the system is racist then he personally can’t be responsible because the system is responsible for managing him" - Maybe that made more sense in your head? Nazi soldiers were still Nazi's. To stick with the "few bad apples" thing I've heard people say - the actual saying is 'one bad apple can spoil the barrel'. If a rotten system resulted in a rotten cop, the cop is still rotten.

Isn't that what public defenders use? I don't know. Maybe in court dramas, but I doubt it gets much plan in actual courts. There are certain things used often in tv and movies such as the insanity defense that are seldom used in real life. Everyone I know who supports BLM believes this:

Justice should be equally applied. People are innocent until proven guilty and any time someone is deprived their day in court it is an injustice. It doesn't matter what George Floyd did or didn't do. Unless the police at the scene were reacting to an immediate threat, lethal force was not appropriate. So, to simplify, you can ignore George Floyd as irrelevant to the rest of this conversation. Derick Chauvin on video committed manslaughter and there was no immediate threat to warrant it. Floyd's past doesn't matter because that isn't the crime we are talking about. There should have been no hesitation in Chauvin's arrest for that crime, charges should have been filed, and he should have gotten a fair trial and his day in court.

I've never noted BLM marching to get charges dropped against someone or asked for special treatment. It has always been about seeking justice and accountability. I surmise that you listen to media that tells you differently. I welcome any actual evidence or statements issued by BLM that contradict what I'm saying.

I personally prefer not to get into motive, because it is (usually) unknowable. Often there are multiple motives and people aren't always conscious of all the strings that pull them. Was Chauvin motivated by racism? Was the initial effort to not charge him an example of systemic racism or just the system choosing to have a bad cops back over someone with a criminal record and race had nothing to do with it? Both are possible. I think in the end it doesn't matter. A bad cop killed a man, and people protested, marched, and (unfortunately) rioted over it. That's sort of the thing for me - even if BLM is wrong about motive, they weren't wrong about the crime and the near injustice.

Ok first off BLM has Nothing to do with any social justice. It is a Marxist organization run by avowed Marxists. They use incidents to excuse looting and rioting. Second BLM is racist. The first thing they did when they took over Minneapolis was set up a n area where white people were banned from entering their park. Why?

BLM has threatened violence if the “proper outcome” isn’t reached. Egged on by leftist progressives. They ask for additional charges against police because they are anti police. They support criminals over law abiding citizens. They falsely claim that police go out hunting black people to kill. The absurdity of that lie alone is only topped by the black melanin superiority theory proffered by some of its leadership.

As to whether he was killed by the knee on the neck by itself, doubtful. It does play into the leftist narrative of a racist country.

BLM has nothing to do with social justice - That is your opinion. And even were some small portion of BLM to think that, that isn't how movements and protests work.

ran my Marxists - BLM isn't really ran by anyone. There is no central leadership. Of the three founders, one of them said she and one of the others were 'trained Marxists' whatever that means. So what? People can be more than one thing. MLK described himself as a democratic socialist. That doesn't change what he accomplished.

The majority of Americans support BLM at this point, and I imagine the vast majority don't consider themselves Marxists.

93-96% of BLM protests have been non-violent.

White people banned - Minneapolis - Source? Can't find a mention of that and have never heard of that.

Threatened violence - that implies a level of organization that they don't have. More like predicted violence. Honestly, you don't need a magic 8 ball for that any more than you needed it to predict the capitol riot - some subset of people when they feel like the system is not giving them the "proper outcome" react violently.

Who cares if they ask for additional charges? Its a jury trial. Chauvin's charges were right. Some were pushing for charges that would have implied premeditation and that would have been a mistake. Asking for more serious charges is often a mistake.

They claim police hunt black people - source?

superiority - Black Americans make up 12% of the population. They aren't the only ones who support BLM, why? because it isn't about superiority. If it was superiority, they would be marching for different things than as a reaction to people being killed by police. Even were the founders or some subset of BLM about black superiority, that isn't how movements work. Assuming reforms are made and the issues most of us are interested in are corrected, active support will begin to drop away.

Did the knee on the neck do it? I think so, and even if it were just a contributing factor, the crowd was telling them it didn't look like he was breathing and aid was not administered immediately. Honestly, the immediate outrage about that video even among police being twisted and revised is why BLM has the support it has.

Leftist narrative that we are a racist country? As opposed to the 'rightist' narrative that we are a racist country, only its the white people who are the victims of the black BLM people?