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"The US won WWII" no. no it did not. The US did basically nothing in WWII

"The US won WWII"  no.  no it did not.  The US did basically nothing in WWII | image tagged in history | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
863 views 5 upvotes Made by SoyChad 3 years ago in politicsTOO
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4 ups, 3y
the politics mods somehow didn't consider this image political. It's entirely political. This site is run by a bunch of hacks.
3 ups, 3y
HOW TF IS THIS NOT POLITICAL?
3 ups, 3y,
3 replies
The US did plenty. That graphs just shows how we didn't have as many civilians killed by the Germans or Japanese.
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
The US joined at the end so it could claim to have participated.
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
That is an interesting and cynical view
1 up, 3y
it might seem very cynical, but I assure you it is minimally reductionist and barely cynical

this is pretty much the authoritative book on the subject
https://www.amazon.com/Meaning-Second-World-Verso-History/dp/1844674797

if you want to understand the horrifying depth of the relationship of the Nazis with the US govt, I recommend this one
https://www.amazon.com/Trading-Enemy-Nazi-American-Money-1933-1949/dp/0595431666/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=trading+with+the+enemy&qid=1618521780&s=books&sr=1-1

The shaping of the narrative of US involvement in WWII and its true role, as opposed to the one in the US press, is quite appalling once you engage with the subject enough to fully understand it.
1 up, 3y,
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2 ups, 3y
1 up, 3y
I'm keeping this graph for later. Thanks
1 up, 3y
I agree, the US did do plenty. We took fewer civilian casualties primarily because of geography. We weren't in close proximity to our enemies like other nations were.
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1 up, 3y,
1 reply
you'd expect China to be high because of Nanking and similar incidents, and Russia is high because....
Gulags. I don't quite know what you were expecting
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
the statements about russia are total nonsense. Their death toll was their soldiers who died fighting Germany, and their civilians killed by the Nazis. You just made that shit up. please don't do that.
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1 up, 3y,
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Stalin was in power back then. He killed a lot of people. The death toll was partly so high because of Hitlers war crimes and Russia's tried and tested numbers tactic, but at least 20% of the deaths shown were because of Stalin's paranoia and the crimes committed by the soviet union
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Citation needed
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0 ups, 3y,
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Well, Stalin killed around 40 million people. He was in power for 24 years. The maths makes that 1.66666667 million per year. Multiplied by 6 (The length of WW2) makes 10 million. The graph shows that the total USSR casualties was around 27.5 million. So around 1 third of all soviet casualties were self-inflicted
0 ups, 3y,
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citation needed. This is why the liberals on this site are barely less detestable than the Rightists. They all parrot the same baseless claims about genocide.
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0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
You need to do some research
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
the research I did showed that the massive death toll claims are Nazi propaganda and use hilariously faulty methodologies.
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0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/21/nino-haratischvili-georgians-proud-of-stalin-the-eighth-life

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

What exactly are those sources? Communism.com?
0 ups, 3y,
2 replies
So the proof is a fictionalized novel and a wikipedia article...

That's crap. please try again.
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0 ups, 3y
Your speaking like a politics stream member. How about maybe you give me some proof that Stalin didn't suck
0 ups, 3y
This is the equivalent of "prove god doesn't exist."

He broke the back of Nazi Germany, He raised his country out of poverty, and he rapidly industrialized it even after it was in ruins after WWII.
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0 ups, 3y
all of this and still no sourcing.
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