Just saying...it's curious how quickly the left and the right can flip-flop on this issue.

To be fair, COVID passports are something states are proposing that I'm not objecting to, but I'm also not fighting for them. They aren't to be federally mandated except potentially for international travel. I had read that somewhere (Europe maybe) was also allowing that a negative test within a certain window could be used if you didn't have a vaccine. So, conditionally, they could make sense and they don't strike me as an issue.

I just hate the notion that a vaccine, which only protects yourself, is needed to travel...it's nonsensical. We'd be better off keeping mask mandates in place. At least then you'll actually be doing something that helps others.

That and it's a basic privacy violation that we never required for diseases like polio, TB, STD's, and such...not sure why COVID is being treated differently.

STD's have a certain level of interaction required to get them (generally).

If they implement without the ability to just be tested, I might agree with you...but otherwise, I can see a state or city that relies on tourism and has been hurt by Covid saying they aren't going to risk it.

At this point, it looks like most states have issued requirements to not use passports. New York is the only one using them. So...I think its a non-issue.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/digital-transformation/vaccine-passports-10-states-with-bans-limitations-green-lights.html

My point in bringing up other diseases is that a vaccine for them is entirely a personal decision (or one your parents made) and we as a society accept that, "OK, if you don't want to protect yourself that's fine, but you'll pay the consequences if you get sick. We'll be laughing our vaccinated a**es off at you, but it's your personal choice to get it or not."

Functionally, the COVID vaccine is identical to any other; it protects the person injected and doesn't necessarily stop said person from transmitting the virus. Why then is it being treated differently?

I recognize what you're saying, but a useless strategy, even a halfhearted one, is still a waste of public resources that were expended to do nothing but assuage irrational fear. [Irrational, in this case, meaning it is nonsensical to worry about getting COVID if you have the shot.]

Vaccines have been enforced in the past though: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts

I'm actually with you though - make it optional. But States do have authority over their borders. Maybe NY is enforcing it the way they are because of all of their international tourism they are used to and want a consistent policy. It might Ajay have to do with fear of variants. Really I don't know and have no plans to go to NY any time soon.

I work in cybersecurity and pretty much assume my stuff had been leaked.

I also don't give much value to my privacy for a vaccine the majority of people will get.

That's legitimate as well; vaccines are indeed enforced for schooling and similar functions, and states have authority over their borders (though I am not a legal scholar and have no clue how sweeping such powers are).

I don't much care about my privacy either; I'm sure my info is being archived by someone, but I've got nothing to hide and assume most people in the government are there because they actually want to help people, not live out petty power trips...I just want to be sure policy and the rationale behind it is being applied for commonsense reasons rather than because it's what a particular side does or doesn't want to happen. Hypocrisy and distortion of of fact are two of the few things I truly despise in life.

And salad...can't trust it...

I found this last year: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/specificlawsregulations.html

Yeah... Facts are facts. We can disagree on motive and cause, but generally not what happened.

While I've probably muted about half of the users there, do you think this would be a good post for PoliticsTOO? It's been a while since I've launched a crusade to that particular breeding pit of acrimony.

It is politics....should have been there instead!

It is in politics though...

It is....scratch Scratch....I cannot remember making this comment. But it sure looks like me.

One of life's many great mysteries, I suppose.

Nobody was harmed though, so it's all good! ;)

Yeah! This will go down in history as one of my most infamous actions.