Cowboy wisdom, hunters can protect all gun owners

Not a single deer hunter is usng an AR or AK to harvest deer!!!!

You must have missed what the meme actually says, there was nothing about any style of firearms. The meme suggests that hunters alone have the ability to wreck havoc on every ones budget if they ban together and protect other owners of firearms.

If I wanted a pro AR15 meme I would have made one. I used an M4 in the service, I own and have built AR15's and will never just give them up because so liberal loon demands it. The left lives on fear, that is all they know, one of the reasons that I do not respond to antithesis and the other trolls is because facts to not matter to them. Their actions have sold more firearms than ever, I love those idiots.

You are are correct sir. I included the ar style weaponry as a hunting tool...that is all I was saying. I have no issue with owning an AR style rifle, it's the 15 round mag that I have the issue with. I dont have any issues with weapons, I have issues with bad players, all 2% of them.

The AR is under powered for most hunting needs but they are used in places with large groups of wild pigs. That said, the number of rounds a weapon holds doesn't make a killer more dangerous or more likely to kill larger numbers of victims. The debates on limiting any kind of firearm really amounts to lies and agendas. Even a quick search on causes of death will show that firearms are not the problem they are made out to be. When I start seeing calls to end abortions, limit cars to 30MPH or less, outlaw drinking at any age and a dozen other things that kill more than firearms, I will know the debate is really about human life and then I will pay attention to what the left thinks about guns.

That will never happen, but If it it did I still wouldn't listen to people who do not know what they are talking about.

I agree with everything you just posted. IMHO, there are no needs for high cap weapons. That is all I am saying...no need for 15 rounds...when 1 slug, or 2 birdshot will do the same home/personal

Tom's take on things? He doesnt even hunt!!!! Haha. And I am ignorant....

No one I know except hog hunters use a weapon with more than a few rounds but the push to ban them is not about hunting, it will never stop with rifles. Give an inch and the left demands more. If someone wants to shoot all day and never reload, it is their business not some activist.

But you have some people who think hunting is about just culling the herd, amd not about resources, as evident by your protege.

I, once again, agree with you.

I think the confusion is on the word "cull" hunters here use cameras year round to watch the herds and pick "cull" deer. These are usually sickly, injured or just small. The meat is not left to rot (not here anyway) but used to make jerky, dog food all sorts of things. The herds best members are allowed to thrive for years and yes when full grown they are taken as trophy's but again, the meat is used. We have a processor near me that has a waiting list for those deer. I watched dozens of deer last year and took three (one was for a friend to old to hunt), nothing was wasted. Game laws and club rules are designed to protect the animals and hunters do a great job of reporting poachers and idiots with guns. Sadly, the anti gun hype catches up to hunters and extreme limits in some states put humans at risk. Deer vs vehicle deaths are way out of proportion when you compare anti hunt states and states that encourage and protect hunting rights. In states with out of control swine, the problems are easier to see, a farmer can lose a years work in a few nights. In other states, pets become food as animals move into communities. Which btw, is why I keep saying that hunters need to protect all gun rights, it also protects their own.

I get your point...four post ago...have a good rest of the week.

You don't need to be a hunter to be informed.

You don't need to talk, but it is your right.

And forge, in NC when I lived there you could only hunt with a round that started with .22. Not 22LR.

I guess I will never live in NC, I hunt with rifles, pistols and shotguns, there is no magic gun that works for all game. I blame media for most of the anti gun fear, how many rounds a weapon will hold is never as big a threat as a shooter with real skills. So far the expert shooter gone killer has never happened although the media claims it did in Las Vegas. The bump stock lies worked for a while but no one that shoots fell for an untrained man using rapid fire made head shots at 400+ yards. Even though military and other experts spoke out, the lie stuck. Most of the AR15 hate is the same type trash, that rifle is under powered and only pig hunters use them here. I shoot them but only at paper.

You cant even hear my .22LRHB, I have air rifles louder than that machine.

Some actually do. I think it's ridiculous, I think that if you don't have the skill to do it with a bolt-action rifle then what are you even doing in the hunting business? But then they start moaning about how AR's aren't as heavy to carry around which - again, how are you a hunter if that's an issue? But they do. Or they say they do.

You are a hunter if you hunt, the means of taking the animal notwithstanding.

Some hunts are successful, some not.

What difference does it make?

There is a thing called overkill. If you need something that was engineered to take out a concrete bunker in Fallujah just to kill a deer, the bottom line is that you're probably just shit at hunting.

Yea no sense in trying to harvest meat if you cant get any from your kill.

Just plain ignorance.

You are the ignorant one. No hunter is proud of a "YUP, AT LEAST I KILLED IT!" After shooting the deer four times, because they couldnt hit the heart.

Again ignorance is not a good thing.

The Armalite Rifle was designed to wound men, because a wounded man needs two to carry him. It was originally chambered in the inferior 556/.223 round, which is a high velocity .22.

AR style rifles are chambered in a variety of hunting rounds including, but not limited to 6.5 grendel, 7.62/.308, 6.5 creedmore and a bunch of others.

The meme had nothing to do with types and models of firearms, it is about the hunters protecting the rights of other firearm owners. Every rifle scares the loons on the left, they just pretend the AR15 styles shoot small nukes, they know the differences but they have to push their narratives.

Sorry, forge, I didn't mean to hijack your thread.

I am not even a hunter. I understand the need for conservation and will stick up for hunters and gun owners until they pry mine from my cold dead hands.

I thought you did a good job except for when they drew you off topic. I should have used a meme to point out how the left tries a gun grab every time the media attacks a failed policy. Most of this drama is being used to draw eyes off the border but they really would like to disarm us if possible.

All owners of firearms need to get on a single page, protect all our rights or none. If I had the ability to slap every hunter that fell for the you don't need an assault rifle to hunt deer crap I would have a very sore hand. My point is, we (firearm owners) need to focus on what really matters, no one in or out of the government has the right to disarm any of us no matter the reason, lie or agenda.

I don't need a car that can go 100MPH over the posted speed limit either but in this country, if I had the money, I could own one.

And you dont hunt!! Talking about a band wagon!!! Get on, we are all going to paradise, come on!

Ok. Still not a hunting tool!

You are NOT a good steward of the land...and talk such as this is just outright DISGUSTING. Next time you kill that deer, just leave it there, you did your job, you killed something. Now go take a picture of it to post and brag. Now, just leave it th are, there are plenty of other animals that will take care of it. Then call up your ranger and let him know where you left fallen deer....they appreciate it when you let them know these sort of things.

I apologize for being so blunt, but your total ignorance is dripping all over the place. I would guess that you may be good at something, but you are posting about something you know absolutely nothing about and it shows.

The land need to be maintained by not allowing populations to grow to the point that they starve for lack of food.

How do you feel about Bill Gates wanting to cut the world population to about 20% of what it is now.

Man, why do you think I called you a shitty steward of the land? It's because you dont even think of your self as a steward, you are only the grim reaper. I think I understand a little bit about wildlife management. My 2 acres is neighbors by a federally protected wetland. I have FWC on my property once year. So, in other words, I speak with wildlife Management at least once a year.

Whay the f**k does Bill Gates whataboutism have to do with our topic? Nothing. It not like Gates is sponsoring a chain fence to be put up around Montana and selling Human Hunting Lisenses, or is he? Ill Oooze some more ignorance for you....come back anytime.

Like fourteen times he's told us we're ignorant and even casual read through shows we're talking from a place of knowledge. I think it's just a line to him like bazinga. It doesn't mean anything.

Yea I am over it. When he said I was ignorant after using steward of the land, I knew we were dealing with a parrot 13 YO.

You show your actual lack of knowledge that AR style rifles are used regularly for hunting.

The DNR biologists scientifically compute how many animals NEED to be taken out of the population every year in order to keep the herd healthy. Hunting is proper stewardship of the land.

What is your place of knowledge. It does not show in your posting. Hunters do not fill an animal full of holes.

You dont even hunt! You probably have never possessed a fishing license!!! Do you care to argue about shark hunting on a trout line?

I an a shooter, I carry for self defense. I hit what I am shooting at. I am a conservationist.

I have to disagree with forge on stopping hunting (which is a moot point, because it will never happen) because it would wreak havoc on the eco system.

It would be like someone saying vote for Biden so people can see how fast the country can be destroyed.

Great job on repeating everything that I have already posted in an attempt to look knowledgable. I was the first to staye a bunch of holes in your harvest was no good. You called me ignorant.

Your first post says basically, A KILL IS A KILL. I am saying in response to that, you are a shitty steward, as the resources need to be used, not JUST KILLED. Ypu have a great hunt out there, and be certain to get your Gates hunting lisence, coming to a wildlife commission near you.

You are delusional, I never said that. To hunt is to harvest, you are the only one that intimated that meet will be left in the field.

You hit on the actual point, hunters need to just stop for a few years and watch the eco system collapse, that would end the anti gun crap for a very long time. I rarely buy meat, I hunt or grow most of my food, trade for what I don't have. But people like me are rare, every year less people hunt, and every year deer alone cost farmers and insurance companies a lot of money, toss in predators and other problem animals like swine and even city dwellers will scream for someone to take out those pesky out of control animals. In some places they are already paying hunters to kill certain animals. The left needs more pressure before real panic sets in.

Perhaps you should invite dumbass to a feast of all you care to eat deer jerky!!!

Read the thread again...

Stupidity is not realizing how ignorant of a specific subject and pontificating about it anyway.

So try that and see what happens.

You are a special kind of...

All of the criminals will still have guns and continue killing other criminals and innocents with no way to defend themselves.

But the OP said that a hunting strike would change everyone's minds. So why don't they try that?

Because that would be stupid and if you really thought about it you would see the point.

And, how would stopping hunting stop the gun crime problem? Or you anti-hunting on principle?

That's what I'm trying to tell the OP. It's a stupid idea. Why are you arguing with me?

Sorry, I can't see where you said it was a dumb idea, it looks like you said, "Why don't they try it?".

Yeah. Because it wouldn't work and the OP knows it.

Argue with the OP. That's the person you want.

Did you see this coaching? Isnt it adorable?