Social Trumpy

Hypocrit republicans want to have thier cake and eat it too. That cake makes you all socialists and it's all over your dirty mouths while you scream about liberals like it means something.

Repugs and liberals are in the same boat on the same team and they don't even know it.

Your all just idiots who think you have a choice, socialism already won it's just what master let's you believe it or not.

He was a pretty terrible socialist - I'd say. Perhaps you don't fully grasp socialism. Look at real socialist policy in practice from Venezuela, Cuba - hell even China who dropped a little capitalism in there. None even come close to Trump's policies. Biden is far more socialist - and so was Obama. What type of socialism do you believe Trump was trying to implement? There are various forms of it, you know.

When the red one is socialist and the blue one is extreme communist, something is wrong with the overton window

So you’ve indirectly proven a point - you have no idea what you are talking about. It would be fairly comical, if it wasn’t so sad. Can’t even get a good argument in because you get caught without facts and you fall back on personal insults. All that does is point to your poor education and indicates you are unintelligent.

Well... he was a Democrat for the majority of his life so....

He sure was a rotten Socialist. He did not try to control the means of production. He did not push for more redistribution of wealth. He did not take the rights of the individual and give it to the state. And, unlike Biden, he was opposed the the Great Reset. Biden used the slogan for the Great Reset as his campaign slogan, "Build Back Better." By the way, the Great Reset is when the World Economic Forum collapses the world's economy and replaces Capitalism (aka freedom) with Socialism (aka slavery).

He literally did control the means of production with the defense production act.

He literally did attempt to redistribute wealth with his tax cuts for the wealthy.

He literally did try to take rights from colored and lgbt people and give it to the state.

You don't know what your even talking about. You must be a huge Trump humping hypocrit moron who still doesn't think your daddy was a socialist.

News flash Trumpy was a Huuuugggeee socialist and so are you, how long did you wait to cash your socialist payment from Comrad trump you hypocrit? Are you getting another from brother Biden? You probally recieved it today direct deposit huh you commie?

Doesn't take long to figure out who's who around here, I guess... XD

"He literally did control the means of production with the defense production act."

The defense production act was first passed during he Korean war. It has been invoke over 50 times since then. What is it? When Trump invoked it gave private businesses help to produce more medical supplies for the pandemic. He did not take over the entire economy. He didn't take over part of the economy. He just gave money to a handful of businesses to ramp up production of medical supplies.

What you don't understand is that Socialists take complete control of the economy. The "collective" owns everything (in theory) but it is really the government who owns everything because they control it. The collective has no say.

"He literally did attempt to redistribute wealth with his tax cuts for the wealthy." Taxation is theft. That is the money WE earn, not the government. The government has no right to steal from our paychecks, our bank accounts, and over a gazillion other things they tax and double and triple tax us for.

Wealth redistribution is the force reallocation of all of our earnings. A tax cut for ANYONE is not wealth redistribution. It is the exact opposite. It is letting those who produce keep more of what they produce instead of stealing it from them. You really blew it on that definition with this one. You could not be more wrong. Plus the tax cut was NOT just for the wealthy. I am so sick and tired of that lame excuse that every Democrat on the planet trots out whenever there is a tax cut. Even if it was, who runs all of the businesses? When business owners keep more money they reinvest in their businesses and HIRE MORE PEOPLE. I really wish Democrats would learn just the basics of economics before they blather on about stuff they have no clue about.

"He literally did try to take rights from colored and lgbt people and give it to the state."
Prove it! If that was the case then why did Trump get more black votes in 2020 than any Republican president after LBJ (before LBJ blacks were all Republicans. MLK was a Republican. Look it up)

"You don't know what your even talking about. You must be a huge Trump humping hypocrit moron who still doesn't think your daddy was a socialist."

Actually I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I only voted for him in 2020 to STOP Socialism. He is not my favorite president by a long shot. There was a lot of things I didn't like about Trump.

First of all I'm not a bleeding heart liberal or a trump humping republican, both of those parties and the stupid people who buy into them are f**king idiots so don't sit there and say shit like

"I really wish Democrats would learn just the basics of economics before they blather on about stuff they have no clue about."

You don't know me or what I do and I guarantee you I know more about economics then any of you idiots in this comment section.

But you wanna talk about it which I respect, let me tell you what I see from your response to my original responses:

-You basically do agree he did use the defense production act but deny the extent he used it does not justify as socialism. He still did it though so your original point isnt perfect.

-You don't agree that his tax cuts were wealth redistribution but he also handed out $1200 checks to every boy and girl in the country under the stimulus programs. Isnt that wealth redistribution also? It is our tax dollars going to people who didn't pay tax dollars! But are taxes our money or not? You seem to think the tax dollars are our money in the first place so that would have made that theft or wealth redistribution by your own definition. I don't know how many socialist examples you need to justify this to yourself but trumpy boy was Huuuugggeee on wealth redistribution and this is really the basis for this meme in the first place

Prove it... Ok I will because you see in my state I watched as trump loving and supported jackasses introduced legislation that would ban lgbt people from being able to visit with loved ones in hospitals. They introduced legislation that would have made it mandatory for lgbt people to submit to invasive state oversight on thier personal lives. I watched as trumpy tried to push gerrymandering laws and elected judges that want to impose bans on abortions forcing women and thier CURRENT rights to be lost state by state. These are all things that literally remove rights that exist today already for people. Your an absolute f**king idiot if you think you can defend this point because there exists mountains of proof of the f**ked things trumpy boy pushed that would have squandered people's personal right state by state. I don't even need to prove this.

Not to mention all the brown people in cages at our border who's human rights he advocated for violating every single day he was in office.

-If you didn't vote for trumpy in 2016 does that mean you voted for hilary? Lol you traitor!

"-You basically do agree he did use the defense production act but deny the extent he used it does not justify as socialism. He still did it though so your original point isnt perfect."

There are things that our government does that is socialistic but that doesn't mean it is Socialism. Anytime the government performs a service that the private sector that is socialistic. Obamacare is socialistic but it isn't Socialism. The more socialistic our government becomes the worse the economy gets.

What Trump did was not a take over, it was not the government providing a service but rather it was probably money given to medical manufacturers to help with COVID. That was socialistic but it wasn't Socialism. Some things the government does that are socialistic that the government has been doing since day one. Public education is socialistic but it isn't Socialism. With public education we get a return on our investment.

The problem is that our government takes far more than the value of any service they perform. That is socialistic but it still isn't Socialism.

Socialism is absolutely no private ownership of anything, including your life. The government completely runs and owns all businesses. They set the price of the product and the wages the employee earns.

Trump, very plain and simple, just did not do that. Obama, when he was first elected, tried to do that by first trying to take control of the banks. Then he tried to take control of the auto industry. Obamacare was his first pass at trying to take over healthcare but it is not a take over....yet.

Stimulus checks are always the wrong way to go about fixing a down turned economy. It is a band-aid that will turn around and bite you down the road. It is Keynesianism.

The best thing Trump could, and what he should have done, was to cut everyone's taxes by that amount. Of course that does not do anything for the people that lost their jobs and their businesses because of the Democrat lock downs. But it will stimulate the economy for the rest of us in the right way, the way that produces jobs.

"-You don't agree that his tax cuts were wealth redistribution but he also handed out $1200 checks to every boy and girl in the country under the stimulus programs."

Technically it is wealth redistribution and as I said in my previous post, the bail outs were wrong. Especially because we borrowed money to pay everyone. However, the bail out was a one time event. What the Democrats are talking about is Universal Basic Income. They basically want to permanently put everyone on welfare. That is true wealth redistribution and it will lead to an economic collapse.

"Prove it... Ok I will because you see in my state I watched as trump loving and supported jackasses introduced legislation that would ban lgbt people from being able to visit with loved ones in hospitals."

This has been common practice in hospitals for decades. It isn't anything new and Trump did not start it, nor did he set hospital policy. Some hospitals do this and some don't.

"They introduced legislation that would have made it mandatory for lgbt people to submit to invasive state oversight on thier personal lives."

So was that Trump or Obama and what it the LGBT community or was it everyone. Obama's Defense Act of 2012 gave the NSA permission to monitor and record every form of electronic communication that we make. That was for everyone and not just gays.

If there is something that you know about could you please enlighten the rest of us? Post a link to the bill or a news article about this.

"I watched as trumpy tried to push gerrymandering laws and elected judges that want to impose bans on abortions forcing women and thier CURRENT rights to be lost staEVERte by state."

EVERY politician gerrymanders. But gerrymanders isn't something a president can do. Federal judges are not elected by the people so there is no such thing as gerrymandering for judges. He did put a lot of judges on the court but they're district judges. He did put 3 supreme court justices on the bench and that is where Roe v Wade needs to be overturned.

What happens if Roe is overturned? Do you know? It becomes what should have always been because the courts can't make law. It becomes a states rights issue. Blue and purple states will keep infanticide legal while red states stop the butchery.

"Not to mention all the brown people in cages at our border who's human rights he advocated for violating every single day he was in office."

What? It's only okay when Democrats put "brown people" in cages?

Trump attempted to order privately owned businesses by Tweet to cut dealings with China,

He, Don Jr, Ivanka, the Kush used the WH to cut private business deals with foreign countries,

Trump funneled folks through his hotels and golf resorts here and abroad for gov't purposes.

He used gov't subsidies to build in the past,

He said he was going to build back because Obama didn't,

He eliminated SALT tax relief in Blue States as a punitive measure and to make them more economically at par with moribund Red States.