Do you prefer the TLM or the NO?

TLM all the way. This is the archbishop who was in charge of the committee creating the NO. The Catholic liturgy shouldn't be based off of what Protestants find acceptable.

I went to a NO parish my whole life up until a few months ago. When they reopened after the covid lockdowns, they starting doing things that pushed me over the edge. They gave us handouts basically implying that we're all racist, and what really sealed the deal was when they played a video of heretic Jimmy Martin lecturing us about our carbon footprints.

I'd been considering the TLM for a few months prior to that, and after having time during lockdown to watch a good deal of Church Militant, Dr. Taylor Marshall, and a few others, I decided to start receiving on the tongue. I had no idea before then how many abuses there are in the average NO. I was extremely lucky to find a TLM only 5 minutes farther away than my old church. So much more reverent: the music, the altar rails, everything.

I know a lot of people like having Masses said in the vernacular, but when they're all in the same language everywhere, anyone from anywhere can bring their missal, follow along, and know exactly what's going on

Spot on. It was my husband who introduced me to TLM, I didn't like it at first and complained the whole time, why can't I see the priest, why can't I hear him, why can't we pray along, why can't we sing along, why is that choir singing over him, I can't understand anything etc. He was very patient with me and encouraged me to give it some time. 6 years later I can't imagine going anywhere else. Most NO liturgies can't compare to the reverence and awe the Latin Mass evokes. I think I pay closer attention having to use a missal to follow along. Sort of like driving a stick shift vs an automatic. I still attend the NO when there's no Latin Mass around since holiness can still be found in some pockets. You can tell the priests who are trying to teach the faith and be good pastors versus the ones who've been influenced by the culture. Stay with the ones who have true devotion to the Blessed Mother, you will see the difference. My family is blessed to have moved 5 minutes away from a carmelite convent where TLM is offered every morning. It's like going on retreat every time I go there. Such peace and beauty the world cannot give.

It's only been a few months for me and I already can barely imagine going anywhere else. I've definitely noticed I pay closer attention too. Following along in a missal really helps me focus as well. The only time my mind even really has the opportunity to wonder anymore is during the homily, but my new priest is much more fiery and engaging than my old one so it's not a problem. I like your car analogy. I have a St. Andrew Missal with the Latin on one side and the English on the other, so it's really easy to follow along with. Another thing that bothered me about the NO that I didn't really know the extent of until after I switched to the TLM was how much they changed the wording to prayers. I remember a few years ago when they came out with the third edition to the Roman missal, and they told us that the one before that wasn't as accurate and was translated in a hurry, and the new one was more thorough and accurate. Come to find out, the "new translation that they were working on" was just reverting back to the much more accurate original. It wasn't new. They had just tried to modernize the prayers, and some of the changes they made really didn't sit well with me. Thankfully they changed many of the prayers back closer to the originals. I had assumed things like "And with your spirit" was new and more accurate, but when I looked in my Latin missal for the first time, I saw that it had always been translated that way before Vatican II. "And also with you" was a less accurate modernization. Another example is saying "shed for you and for all" instead of the proper "shed for you and for many." That one bothered me particularly because they had known the correct translation all along. "All" is totally different than "many," not just a slightly modernized synonym. I still go to NO's when I have to as well, and some are definitely better than others. The problem with so many of them is that they try to appeal to what's popular in the culture at the moment, but they'll always be one step behind because what's popular is always changing. What makes the traditions of the Church so beautiful is in part the fact that they don't change despite everything around them changing

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There's 2 types of Catholic services now. The old one in the Latin language is TLM. After Vatican 2 it was changed to the NovusOrdo NO. Some people prefer one over the other. I think the old one is more reverent in most cases..

Okay, I see. I suppose I'd rather hear what's being said in a language I understand but I get the traditional aspect of it. I went to a Catholic church for a funeral when I was a teen and the service was very impressive.

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