Nope.

They already bitched about him using Airforce One on a trip after never complaining about Trump using it every week and then some.

You know they're not going to let Biden out in that big of a space. He'll get lost. He might fall in a pond or get stuck in a sand trap.

Or maybe he has no interest in spending huge amounts of taxpayer money on golf

I have no clue where you ever got that idea. He's a Democrat. Spending my money is the Democrats raison d'etre. This particular Democrat is going to kill the economy and is now threatening to kill over a million energy jobs and replace them with a promise he cannot keep. He thinks he can give all of those displaced workers green energy jobs. There are no millions of green energy waiting for them. Is he going to hire them in the government? If he does there goes more of my money he is spending on make work jobs that do not produce anything.

Given how much Trump spent on golf, at least Biden, no matter how crazy his plans are, is spending money on something that would be good

Why are you so hung up on Trump playing golf? They all do it. Where you hung up when Obama played golf all of the time?

Golf is a minor expense compared to the trillions Democrats add to our national debt. Yes, I am fully aware that Trump spent money just like a Democrat and I didn't like that about him either. That is one of the reasons why I don't fall in line with most Trump supporters. I do not think Trump was the greatest president. I think he was mediocre at best. But he is a gazillion times better than Obama, Hillary or Biden.

I have nothing wrong with presidents playing golf. I do have issues with presidents spending millions of taxpayer money ON golf

Don't you understand that whenever a president, any president, plays golf they are escorted by secret service. That is what is costing the taxpayer money. The actual golf game doesn't or shouldn't cost us anything. With Trump, he paid for that out of his own pocket. He only took a $1.00 per year salary as presidents. With Democrats, their mindset is entirely different. They think that the people specifically work to support them. They rob from the us all of the time.

Taxation is theft.

Taxation is not theft, but essential to keep the country secure, defended, and progressing. If you want to dodge taxes, go ahead. I'd love to watch

This country survived just fine until the mega idiot President Woodrow Wilson forced the income tax on us in 1913. Now we are just slaves to the government. Income tax has far less to do with funding the government and far more about controlling all of us.

That is why there are sooooooooo many tax laws that on any given day you, me and everyone else could be charged, on average, with 3 tax law felonies. It does not matter how honest and meticulous you are with filing your taxes.

The government never earned that money, YOU DID. There are a very small handful of things that to government uses that money on where we do get a return on the money they stole. But the vast majority of that stolen money is squandered. It is given to every foreign country on the planet, it is wasted on idiotic researches to find out why people' hair turn grey when they are stressed.

You need to understand that the goal of the Democrat party has, ever since the 1960's, is to overload the system to collapse it. That is why Biden just changed a law that prioritized immigration by giving priority to those who were least likely to need welfare. Now all immigrants get in and and the Dems are standing right there with welfare forms and HUD housing applications. Ya know..... Because we work for the government and not ourselves.

Again, Most people would rather pay taxes than live in a world without a government. If you want to compare paying taxes to a world without a government, you are no better than these people who genuinely think communism works

I never said anything about eliminating the government. I know people who do believe in anarchy (or voluntaryism as they call it) but I am not one of them. I believe in the Constitution and the government that it created. We do not have that government any more. Our founding fathers would be very disappointed in what we have turned into. We have less freedom than the founders did under English rule and we just keep losing more and more freedoms every day.

I just want the government severely reduced and limited in its scope. It has grown far too big and is far too powerful. I don't mean powerful militarily, I mean powerful in that they have far too much control over our lives.

I am okay with a powerful military and I am okay with supporting that. We need to have the meanest and toughest military on the planet, other words, "peace through superior firepower."

We never had an income tax, on a permanent bases, until 1913. There is no excuse for forcing an income tax on us. Most people think that it is our patriotic duty to pay taxes because none of us have ever known anything different. It is not patriotic or our duty and it never was. Most of the country (and this is multi-partisan) want some type of tax reform. Most of us are sick and tired of this Socialist taxation scheme that was created to control us. Not to mention the gazillion other taxes the government thinks up all of the time and that includes all of the hidden taxes that we don't see because they are embeded in the cost of everything we buy. Trump was right when he reduced corporate taxes because we pay those taxes in the cost of the things we buy. Dems try to sell corporate taxes as a punishment on the rich and they really hope you never realize how businesses operate. All businesses must pass the their overhead costs on to the consumer or else they will never have enough money to stay in business. The more overhead the government imposes on them the more we end up paying for all of that.

I seriously think that the Democrats just sit around all day trying to think of new ways to steal our money, which is odd because every time they get control of the government they start killing jobs. I think Biden has set a new record for job killing in the shortest amount of time.

Fine then. Don't pay your taxes. I'm not going to stop the police from arresting you though

I pay my taxes out of fear and no other reason. That is NOT how America was set up. We were never supposed to fear our government, our government is supposed to fear us.

You should be scared of other countries invading you. That gives you a reason to pay taxes, because the army is funded by taxes. You should be scared of technological stagnation. That gives you a reason to pay taxes, because NASA and other companies get most of their funding from the government. Taxation is a 'necessary evil'

That is true. We do have a standing army. Something our founding fathers were opposed to. However, this is perhaps the only thing that I disagree with the founding fathers on. And that is only because technology has advanced so much that there is no way possible to have "A well regulated Militia" (as the 2nd amendment states). Back then the people were to form militias if the nation was attacked by foreign or domestic enemies. "Well regulated" means that the people have the same or superior fire power as the enemy.

Technology has advanced so much that We The People cannot afford to "well regulate" ourselves to fight to protect our liberty.

This is mainly because all governments are only good at three things, killing, enslaving and stealing. So if the invading foreign government has nukes, We The People just cannot pull a nuke out of our back pocket to fight back.

BUT (and this is a huge and massive butt) the economic philosopher who inspired our founding fathers, Adam Smith, said something like the government has no right to take money from you unless they offer a return on that money. I don't remember the exact quote and that isn't even a paraphrase. It is the idea that the government must be part of the free market. In other words when you buy something from someone you are giving them something that you deem as less valuable than what you are buying. And the seller also deems what they are selling as less valuable that what you are giving them. It is a mutual exchange when both parties prosper. This is exactly how wealth is generated.

So with the government. If we are going to give them money (voluntarily or involuntarily) the government MUST provide us with something that we deem more valuable than the money they took.

A strong military is something I deem as more valuable. However, what the the government takes from me is way too much. Only a small fraction supports our military.

If the government is going to steal my then they MUST provide a service that ALL citizens can benefit from. The military is the only thing that all of us benefit from.

Unfortunately the government is not motivated like private industry is and because of that we always get a much more expensive service that is no where near as effective or efficient. Because all governments think if a service fails then the solution is always take more money from the citizens.

The founding fathers would probably be less disappointed, and more confused, because politics works differently to back then. Trump most likely changed taxes because it would positively impact his private businesses. I also think that the government should impose fewer taxes, but the votes have very clearly spoken. The people probably prefer higher taxes to literally all the bullshit that the republicans have been doing recently. 'I seriously think that the Democrats just sit around all day trying to think of new ways to steal our money'. I seriously think that the republicans just sit around all day trying to think of ways to isolate the country from all outsiders. You are comparable to the prohibitionists during, well, prohibition, who wanted radical reforms, but weren't willing to spend the money doing that. You want a massive military but don't want to spend the money necessary. In recent years, the defence budget has exceeded $1 trillion. Compare that to the total US annual budget. If you don't want to pay for it, you won't get it

You see here is where you are wrong. There have been some changes to how politics works now compared to back then. Back then anyone could run for any office without any problems. Today there are soooooo many campaign laws that if you are rich enough to hire a team attorneys to navigate around those laws then your opponent will discredit you for violation of one of those laws. This is not a right vs left thing. These laws apply to all parties. This is how incumbents protect their jobs.

Also the rhetoric that politicians used against their opponent was much, much, much worse than it is now. Yeah, hard to believe but it is true. I don't remember what office Benjamin Franklin was running for but I am pretty sure it wasn't president. His opponent accused him of cheating on his wife and having an illegitimate child with his lover. When you consider the morals of the American people back then that would be the equivalent of saying that your opponent of committing mass murder.... against children... and they were minority children...with physical and mental disabilities... or something equally as horrible.

Franklin never cheated on his wife and never had an illegitimate child but some nutjob historian several years ago found that accusation and printed it in their history book as fact. Now there are a lot of people thinking that Franklin cheated on his wife.

So if lowering taxes would positively affect his business, then it would positively affect ALL businesses. Trump was kind of an economic doofus even though that is what his degree was in. But as much as I think Trump was a bit of a doofus I will guarantee that he did this for ALL businesses and not just his own. Prior to that tax cut, we taxed businesses higher than every nation on the planet. It was obscene. Obama was responsible for part of that but it was still too high when Bush was president and I don't even think he thought about lowering taxes. I may think Trump is a doofus but I am 100% sure that he is smarter than you and I combined. But just because you are intelligent does not always make you right.

note: 2 RADICAL leftists. (You may like to note that very few leftists are radical and/or communist). 2 radical leftists in the 60s do not, in fact, speak for an entire political party and over 80 million supporters of it in 2020/2021. If you seriously think that no conservative dislikes immigration, the please explain all the memes on the politics stream on the topic of immigration. You may also like to note that 1. I know that many prohibitionists were democrats, 2. the acting president then was Herbert Hoover, a republican, 3. the political parties basically swapped sides about 60 years ago, but you republicans refuse to listen, because that would invalidate your biggest claim the you are the good guys (Lincoln was republican). Lincoln was seen as a liberal back then, and now, his values would seem extremely outdated and conservative. The republicans used to be the 'Libturds', and the democrats used to be the conservatives

What are you talking about? The Republicans stayed the same. What happened was the true Americans saw where the Democrat Party was going. The was at the height of the cold war. They wanted no part of Socialism and the bolted from the Dems to the Republicans. I know this because my dad was one of them. You have never been the party of Lincoln. Your party turned Socialist in the early 20th century and you've just been getting worse. Your party changed from persecuting blacks to manipulating them for votes.

Socialism is slavery and trying to claim Lincoln as your guy will never change that you are still the pro-slavery party.

So basically you didn't understand what I said about immigration. I don't know what the memes say on the politics stream. I am telling you what we believe. The opposition is and has always been with ILLEGAL immigration. We must protect ourselves from illnesses that we have previously eradicated and we must protect American jobs. We also just cannot afford to pay welfare to those who broke our immigration laws. I just read today that the Dems are now calling for giving Social Security to illegal immigrants. Social Security is bankrupt. It is paying out more than it is taking in. It is just a matter of time before the Ponzi scheme all comes crashing down.

It doesn't matter what you think about Cloward-Piven, all that matters is the Dems are working overtime to collapse the economy even IF they aren't acting on Cloward-Piven's advice. That's what "Build Back Better" is all about.

None of us like Biden, but he is definitely better than Trump. Please give proof that the dems work for the UN and that Biden works for China in any way that Trump and the republicans didn't. Biden isn't great, but you may like to note that a very small amount of liberals are actually socialists, communists, or fascists (In fact, the neo-Nazis on this website are very right wing). If you genuinely believe that anyone who has ever posted a Soviet flag jokingly is a communist, then its no wonder you believe Antifa stormed the capitol and that Biden stole the election. Please list all the great things Trump has done and lets compare them to Biden

I never said anything about anyone posting a Soviet flag jokingly or otherwise. That must have been someone else. I also didn't say it was Antifa who stormed the Capitol. They called themselves the Boogaloo Bois.

I believe you that Democrat voters are mostly liberals and not Socialists. I have no doubt about that at all, but you liberals keep voting for Socialists and that is the problem. I don't even think most of you know what Socialism really is and some probably will deny that their candidates are Socialists. Biden is NOT a Socialist but he is not running the country either. That was apparent when he said he didn't even know what he was signing when he was signing a stack of executive orders. He has set a record of 52 executive orders in 20 days. Biden is just a hapless senile puppet. Kamala Harris is a Socialist.

Go to the UN's website and look up Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030. Agenda 21 is their agenda for the 21st century and Agenda 2030 is the year they are planning on having both agendas in place.

After that go to the World Economic Forum and look up the Great Reset. The UN and the WEF are working hand in hand on Agenda 21 and 2030 because the Great Reset is how they are going to make everything happen. It has actually already started. That was the reason for the lock downs. With 1 or 2 exceptions, every city or state who forced those lock downs were Democrat controlled.

If it was about preventing the spread of COVID then they failed miserably. COVID cases are higher in lock down states than in non-lock down states. All they did was cause a whole lot of businesses out of business. This is how the Great Reset is going to be implemented.

John Kerry, Biden's "Climate Envoy". Kerry said recently that Biden is 100% on board with the Great Reset and Kerry said it will happen sooner and with greater force than people expect. Then he said it has already started so some degree. Those are paraphrases because I don't remember the exact quote but you can easily find him on YouTube saying all of this.

There's your proof. Go look it up. The UN and the WEF had radically toned down their plans when it caused a controversy but when you read their plans, ask yourself how are they going to accomplish these plans without force?

I had an online conversation about 15 or more years ago on YouTube with a guy who turned to be a Neo-Nazi. Everything he was saying came straight out of the Democrat party but he was a Republican. I remember telling him that he would be more comfortable in the Democrat party by what he believed. I just can't remember his reply to that.

I have no idea why Neo-Nazis are Republicans. It makes absolutely no sense at all. Perhaps the reason is they have been conditioned with the rest of America to believe that false scale that puts Nazis on the right.

Proof was found when Hunter Biden's laptop was turned into the FBI. Joe Biden made a deal with the Chinese government and the Ukrainian government to put Hunter's business on the board of directors of their energy companies. Hunter was to be paid several million per month. Joe took half of that income that Hunter was receiving.

This used to be called right wing conspiracy theories until after the election and then the mainstream media all of the sudden found out about all of this. Basically Joe is getting a huge monthly check from China and Ukraine funneled through his son. Just do an internet search for "Hunter Biden's laptop" or something like that.

That means that the fake president of the United States is getting money from China and Ukraine. Do think that there are probably strings attached to that money? I certainly do. Do you think that China would just give over that money to the fake president and not expecting something in return?

The only dealings that I ever heard Trump make about (not with) China was his tariffs. When any nation threatens to impose tariffs on other nations that creates a hostile relationship between the two nations. Back when Herbert Hoover signed the Smoot-Hawley tariffs into law, France threatened to go to war with us.

So I don't know of any deals Trump had with China other than pissing them off.

If you are going to say that, please consider that I've almost definitely heard it before from a raving Trumpist who believes Trump can do no wrong. I have better things to do than look at the same argument copied and pasted over and over again

I'm not a raving Trumpist. The only reason why I voted for Trump this time (I didn't in 2016) was to block the Socialists. I went against my principles of voting my conscience by voting for someone who most represents what I believe and voted to block Socialism and the Great Reset.

Trump has done a lot of things wrong. He created law through execute order and that is wrong. Obama opened that door and it was wrong when Obama did it. Now Biden has taken that door off of its hinges and thrown it out in the garbage. 52 executive orders in 20 days. Some of them were repealing what Trump did but that is not the majority of them. Trump's ideas of tariffs were wrong. Tariffs have the same negative effect on the economy as raising taxes. The only difference between the two is taxes come directly out of our paychecks while tariffs come in higher prices for imported goods.

Trump also, by executive order, banned bump stocks as an over reaction to the Las Vegas shooter. I had never heard of bump stock prior to the Las Vegas shooter but I have learned a lot about them since then. They make a semi-automatic fire similar to a fully-automatic but they make firing the rifle horribly inaccurate. They were invented for having fun at a shooting range and have no other practical purpose, not even in the military. I don't know how to do this but I have read that if you hold a rifle a certain way you can fire it just like a bump stock. So banning it was completely unnecessary.

Trump spent money just like Obama and Obama was the worst. He got Gorsuch and Kavenaugh sworn in on the Supreme Court. Both have sided with the liberal side of the court more often than the conservative side. Hopefully Coney-Barrett won't be a disappointment like the first two.

The military is not the only valuable thing. Community repairs, jobs in the secret service, scientific research, paying for jobs in the government, and until recently, paying for Donald Trump's crazy golf trips

There is not one single conservative in this country who wants to stop immigration into this country. In fact if you go a little further to the right, the Libertarians want to eliminate all of our sovereignty laws. What most conservatives want is accountability of who is immigrating.

This might be a new concept to Democrats but it would be kind of nice to only let those who are not carrying deadly diseases into America. I am not saying that all illegal immigrants are carrying deadly diseases but under Obama we started seeing a nonoccurence of diseases that had been eradicated decades ago in this country.

There was a time when we only allowed legal immigrants to come to this country if they had a skill or were bringing a business. We only wanted people to come to America who could actually contribute to the economy and not be a burden on the taxpayer. Teddy Kennedy got that changed to legal immigrants can be anyone.

Right now if you go to Canada for your job you can only enter the country if what you are doing does not take a job away from a Canadian. You can only go there to train or be trained or you can go there on vacation.

Mexico has much stricter laws on immigration. However those laws have been waived if it is people just passing through Mexico on their way to the United States illegally.

There are two things Democrats have been trying to accomplish since the 60's. First they need more voters. They do not care if the voter can vote legally or not. Second they want to -- as Jeremy Cloward and Francis Piven (two radical 60's leftists) said -- "overload the system". They want to collapse the economy, take America down and raise it back up again as a Socialist nation. However now the World Economic Forum and the UN have come up with the Great Reset where they want to do that to the entire planet.

Anyway to address your other points. Prohibitionists were all Democrats.

You seriously must live in a heavily blue population area and don't get out much if you think taxes and tax increases are popular with the American people. I was born in Georgia and I have lived in California (most of my life), Utah and Missouri. I went to college in Hawaii for two semesters and I have spend time in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine. I can tell you for a certainty that taxes are NOT popular with the American people. Quite the opposite. Most people have been conditioned to accept taxation as normal but no one wants it increased except for Dems

Some of that does offer a return on our taxes but the question is what of these services can be done better and less expensive in the private sector.

I think ALL scientific research should be done of the private sector. Community repairs, if at all, should be handled by local governments and NOT the federal government. When federal dollars are used on local projects it does not benefit everyone equally. It only benefits those who live in that local area. I shouldn't have to pay for a bridge build in North Carolina. Ive never been to No. Carolina and from the looks of it I don't think I ever will go there. I have nothing against No. Carolina, it is a beautiful state. I just do not currently nor have I ever had a reason to go there. And I am just using No. Carolina as an example.

I shouldn't be forced to pay for any road construction in any state, including my own, for a road I will never travel on.

That is the one thing that really bugs the crap out of me every election. Democrats all go on and on about the "crumbling infrastructure". Then they promise "shovel ready jobs". This is utter nonsense to begin with but on top of that, let the local government finance their own "crumbling infrastructure". Stop making the entire nation indebted to road construction projects that only benefit a few.

The other problem is the "shovel ready jobs" idea. The ONLY jobs that matter are private sector jobs. That is where the nations wealth is created. Government jobs destroy wealth. And when I say wealth I am not talking about making the rich richer, I am talking about improving everyone's quality of life, even the poor. That is what I mean when I use the word wealth. Wealth is not an accumulation of money. Money is only a representation of wealth. Wealth is value of goods and services. The government does not produce anything, it only takes from those who do produce. Governments are parasites on the economy.

In the context I'm saying, it is irrelevant what effect it had, but why it was imposed. It was probably imposed purely because Trump wanted his business to pay fewer taxes. This also means that Trump may have imposed other things that were terrible for the country because it benefitted his business, therefore leading to a president who puts their private interests before the interests of the state, a.k.a, a bad president

I'm not buying that line of reasoning. It just does not make sense. I know you want to believe that Trump did everything for himself and no one else but that just isn't the case. Trump did not get legislation passed that damaged other businesses. Only Democrats do that and, yes, I a serious about that. Democrat got Sarbanes-Oxley passed back when Bush was president. It was a extreme overreaction to Enron that affected all businesses. The company I was working for said it cost them 9 million per year just to keep in compliance with the idiotic legislation.

That kind of stuff kills jobs but Dems never think about that. They only want to destroy capitalism because they think it is the cause of all our problems. It isn't and for 2 reasons. The problems in capitalism that they point out comes from corruption and a lack of morality. When you combine Socialism with corruption and a lack of morality you get Adolf Hitler. The other reason is that we stopped being capitalistic before I was born. The economic system that replace it is called corporatism. Our founding fathers called mercantilism. Corporatism is the flip side of Fascism. Corporatism is when businesses temporarily control the government through paybacks and special legislation. This in turn gives the government more power. At some point the government becomes powerful enough to turn the table and takes over all private businesses (aka Fascism).

Corporatism was caused by the corruption inherent in Socialism and politicians greed.

Trump wasn't a bad president but he wasn't a great president. Regardless, he was a gazillion times better than anything the Democrats have put up as candidates. And you can see the results already. Biden hasn't been in office a month and yet he has killed tens of thousands of jobs and that is just the start. What he is planning will kill off over a million jobs. But the Democrats are not working for the American people. They are working for the UN, the World Economic Forum and Biden is specifically working for China.

The left was blinded by Trump hatred and they would not look at just how awful Biden was.

I hate Woodrow Wilson as much as the next person, but most income taxes around the time of WW1 were imposed by a prohibitionist called Wayne Wheeler. He literally made his political opponents disappear, and the income tax was most likely because alcohol taxes made up around 40% of the countries income.
I also hate that government funded things are often very inefficient, but taxation is still necessary. It is not given to 'every foreign country', but is either spent on oil (Which I don't like either), or given as humanitarian aid to underdeveloped countries. Idiotic research happens, yes, but without taxes, you wouldn't have an army, the roads and other things owned by the country would be in a terrible state of disrepair, the US would've lost the space race, etc. You clearly have no idea how much taxation has benefitted the nation. The democrat party is not, in fact, an anarchist party, but the anarchists are actually more right wing than left wing.

The basic principle of taxation is that you are being forced to give over part of what you earned to someone who did nothing to earn it. They just took it.

It is because of taxation that our federal government has grown larger than the top 25 corporations combined. The taxation feeds on itself. More people are hired in the government which requires more taxation.

Taxation is no different than slavery. If you consider that a slave has 100% of the products of their labor taken from them then taxation is just some percentage less than 100%. And actually a slave doesn't give 100% because they are usually housed and fed at the expense of the slave owner.

So the question is at what percentage is it no longer slavery?

What everyone thinks is necessary is NOT. The government is not a charitable organization because they take their donations by force. Charity is given voluntarily. If it is forced it is no longer charity.

The Democrat party is about as far away from anarchy is you can get. They are a total government party. The Libertarian party is about the closest political party to anarchy but even they are not anarchists, although some of their members are. Many of them call themselves "voluntaryists". It is a type of anarchy where people volunteer to take on a limited government type position for a limited amount of time.

I don't know... every time I talk to a voluntaryist I am reminded of the scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail where King Arthur meets two peasants, the first he mistakes for an old woman. They question how he became king because they didn't vote for him. They explain to King Arthur that they are an "anarcho-syndicalist commune" and that they don't have a king.

Anyway, the private sector can do 99% of what the government does and do it for a fraction of the cost and with vastly superior results. But everyone is locked into this mindset that the government must do these roles. Many times it is because the government has made it illegal for the private sector to perform those services. FDR made it illegal for anyone to deliver mail except for the government. All other packages can be delivered by private carriers like Fed Ex and UPS. If they allowed for competition the USPS would dry up and blow away.

OH..... By the way. I am not a voluntarist or anarchist. I am a Constitutionalist. I think the Constitution best describes the role and scope of the federal government if we would just stick to its limits.

He's probably too busy throwing pizza parties with all the children in the neighborhood. Podesta's probably rounding all the children up as we speak...