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623 views 32 upvotes Made by JadeTheCrabHighPriest 4 years ago in politicsTOO
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7 ups, 4y,
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Alternative math 🧮
2 ups, 4y
Yep
3 ups, 4y,
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The 1776 Commission is bringing UNcritical thinking classes to a school near you.
2 ups, 4y
Sure
3 ups, 4y,
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Me: I can prove 2+2 = 4. See, if you count these 2: 1, 2 and then you count these 2: 3, 4, it is thus easily demonstrated that 2+2 = 4.

Trump supporter: Fake math! It's all part of the deep math conspiracy spread by leftists and the media!
1 up, 4y
Yep
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This is actually so accurate
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1 up, 4y,
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This goes for idiots on both sides.
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You’re not wrong
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Correct.
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It’s nice when people recognize there are irons on both sides
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Yep. Hence why I get so mad when people make horribly false blanket accusations about one side or the other...it doesn't take into account the fact that because we have a two-party system, lots of different people will support the same candidate purely because said candidate checks more of their boxes (not all of the same boxes, but enough) to earn their vote.

That view will earn you lots of downvotes and hatred here, so I don't blame you if you don't espouse it...
0 ups, 4y,
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I’m fully liberal but I make an effort to understand other people’s point of view
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2 ups, 4y,
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I'm a center-right conservative, but I 100% support your right to disagree with me. Glad to find someone who reciprocates the sentiment.
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Yeah, the urge to paint people with a broad brush is too tempting a lot of the time. I admit to being guilty of this at times.
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0 ups, 4y
I as well. It's frustrating.
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I used to make an effort but I gave up in 2016
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I mean, I agree, due to the two-party system you cannot label an entire party as (insert something here). However, I have to admit that Trump supporters really do fall most of the time into these stereotypes. And by Trump supporters I mean those who support him even after seeing what he did these past 4 years. I do not blame those who voted for him in 2016, as MAYBE they did either not see/not care about the man himself and how he behaved. But I cannot understand those who support him, even after what happened at the capitol.
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I can actually use the Capitol riot as a really good example for this:

The permit for the Save America (eyeroll) March specified that 30,000 people could be present. I think I read on CNN somewhere that 20,000 showed, so let’s ballpark it as 25,000 (for the sake of discussion).

25,000 people cared enough about their values that they showed up to support the President who met those values more closely than a President Biden would. However, only 400 actually attacked the Capitol. So, out of 25,000 Trump supporters, only 400 were fanatical enough to break our democratic traditions and actually try to cause anarchical violence. What’s percentage of 25,000 is 400? Very small. I think that ratio is relatively indicative of the National ratio of fanatical Trump supporters to those conservatives who voted for him because we generally care less about personal conduct and more about actual policy.

Liberals, who tend to value personal conduct and policy equally, then see this massive support for Trump as massive support for his personal values, but this simply is not true. You may think I’m being anecdotal, but this is the mindset difference between the two parties.

Therefore, I do think it’s unfair and offensive of you to essentially accuse almost 80 million Americans of being (insert -obe/-ist word here). Yeah, some of our number voted for Trump for flawed personal reasons, but most people simply decided he was better for our economy, foreign policy, and individual liberty than Biden. You may disagree with them on any of those points, but disagreeing on policy isn’t grounds for shouting someone down and saying they’re can’t vote a certain way or else they’re (again, insert -obe/-ist word here). It really isn’t too broad a stroke with a highly offensive brush.

With regards to the Capitol speech specifically, I’d like you to watch Rand Paul’s speech on the subject, as I’m in his boat. What happened was horrible, because all riots are wrong. However, saying Trump directly incited it is a tough fall, because LOTS of politicians have used the words he did (“fight” “defend” “liberate”, etc) in speeches regarding peaceful policy. We are a hyperbolic people, so this sudden transition to a literal critique, even with hindsight, is to me a double standard.

Again, I’m glad the rioters were arrested, and I will gladly link Sen. Paul’s speech if you’re interested.
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Idiots*
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They talk about something when it benefits them
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Arguing with liberals be like:

“2+2=4.”

“I’M OFFENDED THAT YOU IMPLIED THAT I DON’T KNOW THAT!”
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.-.
0 ups, 4y
Or, I’m sorry, would it be more accurate like this?

“2+2=4.”

“THE POLITICALLY CORRECT WAY IS TO SAY IT 4=2+2 YOU INTOLERANT BIGOT!”
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TRUMP ACTUALLY WON
TRUMP 2024
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Ah yes, now you stalk my profile :)
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yessir
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