From the Whiskey Rebellion to Andrew Jackson to the Civil War to Jim Crow, patriots and progressives have always fought MAGA.

Clump died?

Kamikaze what are you talking about?

All the racist, reactionary, insurrectionist, know-nothing, anti-federal and anti-democratic movements that have existed in America since pretty much the start.

Start here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

Self-styled “patriots” claiming to be heirs of the American Revolution (who in some cases were actually veterans of the War), taking up arms against the federal government and coastal elites claiming they had no authority to tax them, interfere in their small businesses, etc.

Same shit, different time.

Interesting comparison. Will have to mull this over.

For me, it feels like the last gasp of your American Civil War. I think people wrongly assume that the American civil war was over when the Confederacy failed. No. They just went under ground and America enjoyed a lame ceasefire of sorts. Also, I think it is wrong to assume the American civil war was contained to America. It was a part of a much larger global phenom. The rise of fascism and totalitarianism. It just happened to rear it's ugly head first in America, with the Civil war called by many to be the first modern war. The war against the Nazis could be considered a European Civil war, when Europe was still the center of the worlds in a sense and all things.

Interesting to see if this is the end of Trumpism, or the opening shot of fascism finally taking its root in your country.

Re: Whether Trumpism dies or fascism takes root, sadly I’m thinking it’s the latter. Again it’s dawning on me that this shit (whatever umbrella term you wanna give it: racist crypto-fascist insurrectionism, perhaps) has been going on since not long after the smoke cleared after the American Revolution.

It has waxed and waned ever since, with a big wave of it cresting during the American Civil War (which itself was decades in the making), and then quickly re-entrenched itself after its supposed defeat with the failure of Reconstruction and the rise of the KKK and Jim Crow.

That lasted for 100 years or so — the 1960s and Civil Rights Act pushed back on it a bit, but that led to Nixonism, Reaganism, etc. Obama’s tenure as the first black President sparked the most vicious backlash in our time, which we call Trumpism, but which is really all of the above.

Trump and the GOP have been knocked out of federal government by the barest of margins, but there’s no sign whatsoever of a reckoning in the works by conservatives.

In place of “racist crypto-fascist insurrectionism,” I just realized there was already a term that fit nicely

Has a better ring to it