Even slavery is technically not taking 100%. Slaves had to be fed, housed and clothed.

Taxes are the dues you pay to live in civilization.

Don't like it?

You're free to leave the country at any time.

Really? We never had a federal income tax until 1913. So was the United States uncivilized from 1797 (when the Constitution was ratified) to 1913 (when a Socialist president, Woodrow Wilson, forced the Progressive taxation scheme on the nation)?

It is not about leaving this country. It is about getting this country back. Back the way it was before the Progressive vermin infested this country. This used to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. Now it is the land of the controlled and the home of the slaves. And the scary thing is that half of this country actually want to be controlled. They think it is how life should be.

Didn't I cover this with you before?

Republicans introduced income and other taxes in 1851.

And if you don't love America, then leave it. Taxes ain't going anywhere.

I don't think you mentioned that before.

Yes, the Republicans introduced a TEMPORARY income tax to pay for the civil war. The tax lasted a few years longer than they promised but it was repealed.

It took a narcissistic, misanthropic, control freak Socialist to push a permanent and oppressive taxation scheme on us. Woodrow Wilson was one of the worst presidents this nation has ever had to endure. Wilson was the original Barack Obama. Wilson forced the income tax on us and Obama forced on us the largest tax increase ever known to mankind. Then he used force to make us pay for his very unpopular (un)Affordable Care Act.

1851 to 1872 was not a "few years." That was 21 years.

Progressive vermin? Nice. Progressivism has given you your life. Things like public education, child labor laws, the weekend, paid vacation, that your employer should pay for your healthcare insurance, the roads, the fire and police departments, the 40 hour work week, that companies can't sell you rotten food, no lead being used in paint or things like gasoline, the weekend, even the idea that people can govern themselves, everything you have - EVERYTHING that is a defacto part of modern life was brought to you by Progressives.

And we're going to do it again.

We're going to make sure everyone gets quality healthcare, not just the rich. We're going to make sure everyone can go to a trade school or college without having to shoulder a massive debt. We're going to make sure that you get paid what you're worth, and you're worth A LOT more than you think you are. We're going to get the country off of oil.

America has always been a progressive country.

It always will be.

If you don't like that- leave.

Progressivism is Socialism. Public education existed from the beginning. It is not a Socialist idea. Child labor laws were not created by the Socialists or the unions the Socialists created. They existed before but were not laws but requirements that certain businesses had, while other businesses had to problem hiring children. But look at the millennia of history prior to the turn if the 20th century. Children ALWAYS worked. Mostly on farms but as industry grew, long before the United States was formed, children started showing up there as well. What changed that was not the Socialists but a change in attitude in our society.

The weekend existed long before unions. The purpose of the weekend was to give time off for Christians on Sunday and Jews (and Seventh Day Adventists) on Saturday. If it were not for the Christians and Jews there would never be a weekend.

The 40 hour work week existed before the unions.

The one thing you must realize is that unions at their highest numbers only accounted for 13% of the work force. Yet all of those things the Socialists supposedly gave us was NOT because of the unions. And it was only after most businesses started giving their employees those benefits to attract a better quality of candidate for employment that the government stepped in and said we need to make this into law and force every business to do this.

Fire and police departments have been with us since the beginning and are no Socialist ideas. Do you want to know why fire, police and schools are not Socialist ideas (even if they can be found in Socialist nations)? It is because our government, when first founded, believed that there should be no taxation without giving a value back in return. Fire, police and schools all have value back to the tax payer. That is called Capitalism. It is a fair exchange of goods and/or services. What is NOT Capitalism is taxing people to pay for gender studies in Pakistan. No one in the United States benefits from any of that. We get no return on what is confiscated from us.

What is also the polar opposite of Socialism is self governance. Socialism is collectivism. Under collectivism the individual is expendable and only exists to serve the collective. There is absolutely no self determination because the individual owns nothing, not even their own lives. The individual is a slave to the state and the state controls the collective. If you think that is not Socialism then you better read up on it

You need to go find your high school civics teacher and apologize to them.

Because you clearly didn't pay attention.

And if you didn't have a civics class in High School, you need to get a lawyer and sue your school district for damages because they miserably failed you.

None of that is true.

Up until 1919, the average work "week" in manufacturing was 60 hours with a 10 hour work day.

You can read actual history with actual citations to source documents from those time periods here: https://eh.net/encyclopedia/hours-of-work-in-u-s-history/

And, NO, police and fire are not capitalist ideas.

Do you know why?

Because they're not making money. If they were capitalist ideas, it would be a private company that was out to make money.

The police and fire departments aren't making anyone a profit.

Do you want to know what happens when you have a fire or police department run for profit?

Because we know what happens.

Marcus Licinius Crassus happens.

And if you're "who is that guy?" He was one of the richest men in ancient Rome. How he got that way? One, he was born into some wealth. But he got richer when he started his fire team. He would wait until there was a fire, and then he'd roll up with his slaves and make an offer to the building owner while the building was on fire.

I'll pay you $$$ for that building and put out the fire. If the offer was refused, he'd wait and offer less money. And less money. Either the building owner paid, and lost the building or the building burned to the ground and they lost everything anyway.

This may come as a shock to you, but sometimes very valuable buildings that he had tried to buy normally would suddenly catch on fire and his team was really super close by when that happened. No one would prove it was arson, but...

The fact that they don't teach the truth in high school civics or history classes is a shame. It produces people like you who never do your own research. You just blindly believe what you are taught.

If you think fire and police are not capitalist ideas then you do not know what capitalism is. Making a profit is one half of the equation and a Marxist distortion at that. Free market economics (what Marx labeled Capitalism) is ONLY about the free exchange of good and/or services. Exchanging one value for another value. It is in that exchange that BOTH parties increase their wealth. Wealth is NOT money. Wealth is the utilitarian value of a good or service. Study basic economics!!! Stay away from Marx and John Maynard Keynes, they were idiots. Marx is the one who taught you that Capitalism is only about making a profit. He needed to get you to believe that Capitalism is bad so that he could sell you his caca sandwich of a political/economic system.

You quoted the AVERAGE work week. You do know what an average is don't you? I didn't say that all businesses worked their employees 40 hours per week. What I am saying is that the 40 hour work week happened in some businesses before unions and Socialist laws imposing it.

I am software developer. I work get paid a salary not hourly wage. Most of my career I have worked more than 40 hours per week. Some employers will fire you if you only work 40 hours. Most software developers work long hours and we don't get overtime pay. Some developers in addition to long hours have to be available to come back in if the software crashes in the middle of the night. It is not just developers who are required to work those longer hours.

So how is it you Socialists have given us the 40 hour work week? Please tell me because I would like to know.

Did you know that their is a private fire department in Tennessee (or is it Kentucky, I forget). If you want their service you pay a monthly fee and if your house catches on fire they come out to your house and put it out. If you opt not to pay that fee they will still come out and put the fire out but you will get a bill for their services.

Crassus was an idiot. All it would have taken is if someone else created their own fire department and ran it with integrity. Crassus would have gone out of business. Marx's problem is he could not think of people beyond his stereotypes. He could not accept that most business owners have to have integrity just to survive.

Remember that the next time a fire truck goes rolling by to a fire, I suggest block them and tell them you'll not comply with their tyranical ways and be part of their slave society. Maybe you want to get rid of that road infront of your house too, you'll be fine with gravel , just be warry of the washboard coming up to intersections.

Blah blah blah.... Why is that the FIRST thing that everyone who thinks paying taxes is our patriotic duty, always says.

Why don't you ever ask who will ever study lizards on a treadmill? Who will ever study why hair turns grey when people are under stress? Who will ever give Afghanistan millions of dollars for gender studies? All of that was just included in the bill that the Democrats were pushing to help those who have been devastated by Democrat forced lock downs. Pelosi thinks that $600 will pull everyone out of the hole the Democrats have dug for them. What would get people out of a government imposed hole is for the government to get out of the way.

It is becoming clearly obvious that the Democrat states are seeing the biggest increase of COVID cases. The freer states have an increase but not as high. The lock downs have always been a waste of time and unconstitutional. They caused what was a very strong economy to fall back down to the Obama level and what Democrats call "the new normal".

There are billions of other things our government spends our money on that is totally unnecessary. Trillions have been wasted on stupid stuff and all you are concerned with is "who will put out our fires?".

Fire and police are maintained at the city or county governments. That being the case what is the justification for the majority of our taxes going to the federal government?

There is at least one county that I have heard of (in either Tennessee or Kentucky) that has a private fire department. You have the option of paying for their service or not. If you don't pay and your house never burns down then you get to keep that money. If you don't pay and your house catches fire you must pay a special one time fee to have the fire dept come out to to put your fire out.

Considering that I have ever only seen one house on fire, in person, in my lifetime, I would probably keep my money, maybe. I don't know what I would do but currently I have no choice. I am forced to support the fire department.

I am not too concerned about that because at least I could possibly get a return on the service I am being forced to pay for. It is all of the billions of other things that do not benefit me in any way, shape or form which I am forced to pay for.