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In POLITICAL terms,
 'Climate Change'
 is a method to extract as much money as possible from the middle-class (and poor).
   Yes, they'll take trillions and do next to nothing for the 'Climate'...  
They WILL, however, enrich themselves, their families, their cronies,
 and most importantly,
 their political backers. | image tagged in climate change,ripoff | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
398 views 16 upvotes Made by luftweg 3 years ago in politics
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1 up, 3y
Hey, sounds a little like aspca
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You do know, there are just as many people enriching themselves trying to keep the system exactly the way it is, right?
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Yes, I didn't say there wasn't... a lot of these entites are (now, ostensibly) in the private sector (which would also include Facebook, Twiitter, Google, Amazon, etc, as well)... However, the 'Climate Change' POLITICAL movement takes it to a higher SYSTEMIC level, and 'ironically' be facsist-like as well, by involving big-money corporations (who will get a piece of the action).... It would entail potentially dozens of trillions of dollars forcibly extracted from the People, either through taxes and mandates, or purposely limiting or banning available products and services... Your friendly ruling-class Hollywood twit, or connected multi-million-dollar sports hero, or overpaid academic leech, will easily be able to afford it (and/or be compensated in some manner), while the middle-class people will wilt under the passed-down burdens.... To the Govt would-be dictators, it's all about ensurance of maintaining power, by subjugating the population.
0 ups, 3y
Personally, I'd much prefer to OWN my own solar array in my back yard, than to pay a power plant for electricity.
1 up, 3y,
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Sure, because there are greedy corrupt people on all sides.
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There are more jobs today in solar PV than in oil, gas, and coal combined.

It's coming whether we like it or not. Right now large scale solar power plant construction is cheaper than large scale coal plant production.

Cost is the driver and solar is cheaper.
Jobs make it a win/win.
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Your stats do not appear to be correct. Oil industry has about 10 million jobs, while solar seems to have about 250k jobs. https://www.thesolarfoundation.org/national/
https://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/energy-primers/hydraulic-fracturing/how-many-jobs-has-the-oil-and-natural-gas-industry-created

The statement 'it's coming whether we like it of not', is so milquetoast. Why don't they just say that about climate change, in general (after all, it would be more true; since climate is going to change whether we like it or not)?

From a physics standpoint (certainly with current technology), solar cannot directly compete with fossil fuel.

Solar derives energy in real-time. In other words, it can only convert solar energy as it's coming.

In contrast, fossil fuel, IS essentially a STORAGE of SOLAR energy over the course of MILLIONS OF YEARS. So, yes, fossil fuel is derived from solar, since plants that grew millions of years ago took solar energy and stored it chemically after they became fossilized. Animals that ate the plants, and became fossilized, also ultimately stored that solar energy.

Ultimately, ALL energy of the Earth comes from the Sun. This includes wind power (due to the Sun's heat energy on the atmosphere). Tidal power mostly comes from the Moon, but ultimately the Sun is by far the dominant source. You could argue that Geo-thermal power comes from the Earth, but without the Sun, that energy would have long since burnt out (and, if the Earth came from the Sun anyway?...).
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I'm waiting for a method of biosource coal that can be produced cheaply within a month or two so that we can have a renewable supply. We can do it now, but its not cheap enough to be worthwhile in the long run.
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That's not what your link says. Your api link states that the oil and gas industry, "supports" 10 million jobs, not employs 10 million.

But you're right. My numbers do appear to be off and i'm not sure why. Renewable energy employs 3 to 1, the number of jobs in the fossil fuel industry but no solar pv alone. I'm not sure where I got that wrong or if numbers have changed over time.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2019/04/22/renewable-energy-job-boom-creating-economic-opportunity-as-coal-industry-slumps/?sh=94ae72536654

Solar in fact, is competing directly with coal and has beat out new plant construction w/coal, even in America. Storage batteries are replacing coal fired plants, even in America.

Yes, fossil fuel is essentially solar, but it was created over millions of years and sequestered, pulled out of the mix and this allowed a cooling of the planet that created an environment conducive to humans. We don't want to lose that! We're ripping through millions of years of that storage in a couple hundred years. There is nothing conservative in an ideology that makes light of that reality.
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