The only real difference is the name.

My Latin teacher used to say "gerundives are back in style!" It took me 11 years after that to learn enough grammar to get that joke.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck I am not about to call it a walrus. I can't help if if you don't see it.

Yes you can, you can address the fact that ducks have very specific anatomical features and you're pretty much calling everything you don't like a duck. If you can't help that, then what the hell is up with your lack of agency?

Antithesis I truly believe that all you are doing is living up to your name. You are just being the antithesis of anything I say.

You missed the point. All of them have the same goals: to get the masses to accept a system of government where the elite rules everyone else with absolute power.

That is categorically neither the definition of Socialism nor Communism. Dickhead dictators will say all sorts of things to manipulate people, your entire argument rests on obtusely insisting that what they said was absolutely accurate rather than lies to convince the masses.

You are basically admitting that you are the type of person who believes the things power-hungry dictators and genocidal sociopaths say to gain the loyalty of the ignorant *after* they have been exposed as dictators.

*slow clap*

Uh no. I just know that if you start talking socialism, communism, or fascism, then I automatically know you are either a useful idiot or you are a corrupt dictator because that's all those things lead to.

It demonstrably isn't.

Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland have strongly socialist systems. The state, on behalf of the people, owns a large percentage of the economy. It spends a large portion on education, housing, and public welfare. A large percentage of its workers are unionized, granting them greater power. Last but not least, these countries are democracies, allowing the general population input into decision making.

World's 20 Happiest Countries
1.Finland
2.Denmark
3.Switzerland
4.Iceland
5.Norway
6.Netherlands
7.Sweden
8.New Zealand
9.Austria
10.Luxembourg
11.Canada
12.Australia
13.United Kingdom
14.Israel
15.Costa Rica
16.Ireland
17.Germany
18.United States
19.Czech Republic
20.Belgium

I just want to add that technically the countries in Europe have strong welfare states but are not socialist, because government spending is not necessarily socialism. However, that distinction is effectively meaningless when arguing with conservatives and libertarians who think that any spending by the government is socialism and that government spending is inherently bad, so otherwise agree.

Government spending is not automatically bad, it depends what is being spent on and how much money is being spent.
However we libertarians believe in the free market. While we had a free market in the US for medical care we were making and inventing all kinds of things for medical treatments. Since we've switched to a managed medical system that requires insurance where no one really competes we've stagnated. Similar to to other countries.

Elites already rule everyone in America.

Jfc not this BS again

Arguing with conservatives who unironically believe fascists are actually socialists is permanently scarring my brain tissue.

"Globalism is Communism" - remember that? "The left want open borders." Remeber that shit?

Well, guess what. Nazism and fascism both believe in heavy national borders - in fact, they're hardline about it. Communism advocates for a world with no national borders at all.

Whether you believe in one or other or neither is irrelevant - the point is, it's a difference, and a major one. You're wrong.

Hitler and Mussolini were National Socialists, while Stalin was an International Socialist. The distinctions are moot because Hitler was trying to take over the world. He may have been a strong believer in Germany's sovereignty he still wanted to rule the world. Borders would be irrelevant in a global government regardless if that government was National or International Socialism.

Communism hasn't really been practiced. The closest would be China and North Korea. Lenin called himself a Democratic Socialist and Stalin referred to himself as an International Socialist.

Mussolini is the father of Fascism and Fascism is just a variation of Socialism. Antifa is literally at war with themselves and just are too stupid to know that.

Like f**k he was. Hitler wrote down what he was trying to do. He said it explicitly in his own words. He wanted to dominate international global politics, but he wanted Germany itself to expand up to the Ural mountains and encompass the oil fields in Georgia and the Ukraine with a perpetual war against Russia lasting down the generations.

The goal of Communism is to make the world Communist with a centralized government becoming obsolete through local worker administration - literally a union of Soviets, the Russian word for a collectivized workers' council.

And what was the very first thing I said? The fact that you yourself know all this. Your narrative in this meme is in direct contradiction with the narrative you adopt in other situations.

BUT THE TRUTH ISN'T SITUATIONAL, IS IT? THE TRUTH DOESN'T CHANGE CONTEXTUALLY. THAT'S YOU BEING DISHONEST.

How am I being dishonest? Stalin referred to himself as an international socialist. I didn't call him that, it is what he said about himself. The same with Lenin being a democratic socialist.

There is a bit of a contradiction in what you replied. Hitler wanted to "dominate international global politics" but he only wanted to expand Germany to the Ural Mountains, Ukraine and Georgia. Are you saying he wanted to rule the world and just make Germany's border bigger?

He certainly didn't just focus on those areas. He went all of the rest of Europe (with the exception of The Republic of Ireland (who supported Hitler) and Switzerland. He also partnered with Muslim leaders in the Middle-East. He even convinced the Shah of Persia to change the name of his country to "Iran" (which is Farsi for "Aryan"). But then Islam has the same goals, world domination without any Jews.

There is very little difference between any of those collectivist governments. To collectivists it is major but collectivists are morons. All collectivist economic/government systems have identical foundations. They all make peasant slaves of the citizens while they live in luxury. Collectivists all believe there is no private ownership of anything including the life of the individual. The individual is expendable.