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Dinesh D'Souza logic | Then why did Franco, Hitler, Mussolini and Pinochet
all oppose Marxism and execute
socialists? Fascism is a left-wing ideology; DINESH D'SOUZA | image tagged in npc meme,dinesh dsouza,conservative logic,conservatives,stupid,fascism | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 4y,
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2 ups, 4y
Get this...they were competition because....they represented a different ideology to that of Hitler. Crazy how that works.
2 ups, 4y,
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Because he didn't need them any more after achieving power...
Let that be a lesson, you moron
3 ups, 4y,
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Let that be a lesson to you. Abolish hierarchical institutions of oppression.
1 up, 4y,
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You sound like a parrot regurgitating words taught to it.
Silly ass
3 ups, 4y,
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I suppose that’s better than say your completely uneducated response.
1 up, 4y,
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There is a difference...a HUGE difference...in "educated" and "indoctrinated".
I am educated, whereas, you, sonny, are indoctrinated
3 ups, 4y,
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Imagine thinking Franco and Hitler and Mussolini initially needed the very people they were fighting. Especially when Franco was installed militarily.

You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.
1 up, 4y,
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You are comparing left-wing, right-wing as practiced in the US with left-wing, right-wing as practiced in Europe.
That's like comparing apples to oranges.
In Europe, Right-wing is usually Fascist in nature, whereas,in the US, today, 2008-2020, the Left-wing politics are Fascist in nature.

As far as the history of the Axis powers, 1920's throught 1934-35, I know quite a lot.

After Hitler siezed power in 33, he needed to consolidate his hold on the industrialists and the Army. To do that, he had to turn his back on the true Socialists. The Socialists of the Nazi Party were led by Ernst Rohm and the Strum Abteilung(S.A.). Hitler purged the ranks of the S.A. and murdered Ernst Rohm and anyone else that stood in his way of gaing total control of the PArty and the country. Hitler didn't need the Socialist after gaining power in '33 and he needed the Army and the industialist and he gained their support by his purge of the Socialist elements of the party.

Franco beat the snot out of the Communists.

Mussolini started the Fascist movement of the 20's, and even he wasn't a true Socialist.

The point and fact remains...when a "socialist" movement gains power, they almost always turn into a dictatorship of one kind or another and kill off or "re-educate" the true Socialists and consolidate their power and call themselves something like "Peoples Socialist ____ ______" but aren't "socialist" at all.
2 ups, 4y,
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You describe the modern left-wing as fascist. Where do you place the Proud Boys, the Groypers, and everyone that attended the Unite the Right Rally a couple of years ago?

You act like national socialists are socialists. They are not. Hitler even objected to the inclusion of "socialist" in the party's name, but it was created to appropriate the term and appeal to left-wing workers. You can see in the policies of the Nazis that they were not sympathetic to labor or socialism. They were union busters. They privatized as many public services as they could.

You say that about Franco like you're proud of that. Franco was backed militarily by Hitler, though.

Truth be told, the Soviets killed counterrevolutionaries, even Stalin killed Trotsky, but still, fascism and socialism were two distinct powers. Since its inception, all communists, anarchist and authoritarian, strongly oppose what we know as fascism.
1 up, 4y,
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I don't give them any thought what so ever. They are a reaction to the antifa and BLM movements. The Unite the Right Rally would have been completely peaceful if Antifa and others opposed to the right had stayed away. They came looking for a fight and created the situation where some were injured/killed.
To me, the Proud Boys and others like them remind of "The Gangs of New York" movie...totally ridiculous. But, the antifa and blm folks are really dangerous and pose a real and present danger to our country.

Your second paragraph is essentially correct and is almost exactly what I said before. Hitler renamed the DAP, Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, the NSDAP( Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) . He included Socialists in his platform just to bleed support from the Communists. Once he gained power, he didn't need them anymore.

Why on earth would I be "proud" about Franco? I hate communists,fascists,and socialists, equally.

Your fourth paragraph supports what I have said three times now...once a socialist movement gains power, they consolidate that power and go full-blown dictator, a la Lennin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro, Chavez, and , yes, Bide...er, ah...Harris will do the same thing if they steal the election.
1 up, 4y,
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So you can admit then that the Nazis catered to leftists in their terminology but instead implemented draconian right-wing fascism? The Bolsheviks mostly betrayed the anarchists, but still implemented an authoritarian communist state. Not the same as fascism.

How is Antifa fascist? They literally stand for anti-fascism. Black Lives Matter wants accountability of government and police, hardly authoritarian, much less fascist. I think you need to turn off the FOX. It's polluting your brain. I believe the women you mentioned are democratic socialists, thus the few actually leftist politicians in America. They are not fascists.
1 up, 4y
I never denied it.

The rest of your missive is pure drivel...and I already went through this with you before regarding BLM and Antifa. You are too partisan to admit I am right, as in correct.
I get my info from many sources, among them, FOX. But I don't trust half of what I see on FOX. And I can trust almost nothing that I get from NBC. And I trust nothing from CNN...they are total liars.
1 up, 4y,
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And I'm sure you don't find Trump fascist, even though he's quoted Mussolini, is a self-avowed nationalist, has white nationalists in his administration, is enacting protectionist trade policies, bows to corporations, ICE detainees are being held in indefinite detention, they are being castrated, he signed an executive order to promote "patriotic education" and glorifies the police and military and wants military parades.
0 ups, 4y
Correct. I do not find him to be any of those things... Even though when he first took office I was convinced he would be everything you make him out to be. I held my nose and voted for him because I KNOW that Hillary would have absolutely become what you claim Trump is.
As it turned out, Trump turned out to be a pretty good good leader...a LEADER. And even though you and other mind-numbed drones have made his life a living hell, he has done more positive things for our country and it's people in 4 years than the Democrats have in the past 50 years.
If it weren't for the Chinese Wuhan Flu, Biden wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being President. And that is why the PRESS and Democrats insist on keeping us under lockdowns and wearing the stupid face diaper.

Looking forward to another four years of Trump LEADING our nation. Not looking forward to another four years of sky-screaming millennials and Antifa riots...but hey, still better than living under a Democrat Socialist(COMMUNIST) Dictatorship.
1 up, 4y,
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Hitler never garnered support from socialists in the first place. The Munich Post, a socialist newspaper ran an anti-Hitler campaign for more than a decade until its censorship. The Nazis never enacted socialist reforms and were never sympathetic to communism. Fascists have always been staunchly anti-communist. There is a significant distinction here.

The only likeness is dictators promising or appropriating socialist terminology to gain power. Arguably, Marxism-Leninism is still socialism; fascism is not.
0 ups, 4y
That's my point!!

He gave them lipservice, pablum for the masses, and once in power, he abolished the unions, abolished the free press, abolished all other parties.
The ultimate end-game was total power and he said and did whatever it took to achieve that goal. Then once in control, he killed off or jailed anyone he deemed a threat to the Party, which in this case meant Hitler himself.

Again, right now, 2020 USA, the fascists are made up of the LEFT. Antifa, BLM, Ihlan Omar, AOC, Pressley, Talib...all of them are fascistic in their tactics that they utilize to gain support and power. The only thing missing are the spiffy uniforms & a logo.
1 up, 4y
That's the bit that always confuses the alt-Right.
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