How can cancel culture end? How did it start? What are your thoughts on it?

it depends. cancel culture has gone WAYYYYY too far, but it should be used in very dire situations. like, for example, cuties is literally child porn, so of course netflix should get cancelled. but people are getting cancelled because of one racist tweet that happened a few years ago. I don't think that's okay.

I pretty much believe exactly that. I think whoever in Netflix worked on that should at least be fired, and hopefully imprisoned, because that is a terrible thing they did. Then on the other hand, JK Rowling got cancelled for staying that there are two genders, a freaking scientific fact.

actually, i've seen what jkr did, it was far more than that. she made a bunch of anti-trans tweets.

So she doesn't believe in the whole transgender thing. Why would that mean she has to be removed from the public eye?

i'm never said she should've been cancelled. I'm just pointing out she did more than just say there are two genders.

Yeah ik

Except science is offensive when it is done properly I guess XD

Exactly.

Cancel culture suck infinite whale dicks.

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There are consequences for speech and actions.

"Cancel Culture" is a result of people breaking the norms of society, and society rejecting that behavior.

Social ostracism has been used by humans to modify behavior since before written history.

what the heck is cancel culture

Taking down sculptures doesn't erase the history behind it. That's why I don't support taking down sculptures!
Cancel culture in a whole, seems stupid!

That's exactly why I support removing statues. History isn't erased by it, but immoral "heroes" are no longer held up as examples to imitate.

Want statues of history, make statues glorifying the victims.

Make statues glorifying the displaced.

Don't make statues of the tyrants.

Assuming we’re talking about Confederate monuments and imagery, is it really cancel culture to correct a 150-year-old wrong? Without getting too deep into the sinister reasoning behind glorifying the Confederacy, those southern states tried to destroy the Union. They were traitors who were ultimately pardoned, but traitors nonetheless.

I see it as no more cancel culture to forbid Nazi imagery. If someone flies a Nazi flag in their front yard, they’re broadcasting a very clear message, and it’s not one of peace and love.

On the subject of Nazi's, after Germany lost WWII, they tore down all the Nazi statues, and the statues of Hitler. I think that is to "right the wrong" of the horrible actions of the Nazi's and of Hitler himself, that they were not going to glorify it by keeping the statues up, after WWII was over.

I guess the same argument could be made about the confederates in the United States, by seceding from the Union, they could be seen as traitors to our country. In this day of racial tension, it could also be noted, that since these people own slaves, that, alone, can also cause more tension. That is probably why, in this day in age, people want those statues down! I just don't support it, because I think people need to be educated on history.

“I just don't support it, because I think people need to be educated on history.”

I feel like you’re right there, but you pull back at the last second for the sake of pulling back because of this nonsense ‘cancel culture’ shaming. Some things need to go.

Shouldn’t history be learned from a textbook in a school? Realistically, when was the last time you saw a statue of anything and just from the statue alone, learned all you needed to know?

Confederate monuments and paintings didn’t start really going up until the early 1900s, long after their subjects’ respective deaths, and we all know why: It was a systematic method of quietly intimidating minorities, African-Americans in particular. Hell, the Stone Mountain monument was started in 1910 and wasn’t completed till the 60s and was the site of annual KKK rallies all along and into present-day.

The sad truth is these abominations were symbols of oppression then and they’re symbols of oppression now. The hero worship and lionizing of these traitors has no place in the American culture.

If you want to educate about history, create statues that don't glorify the traitors and tyrants.

Make statues that glorify the oppressed, the displaced, those killed, and the ones who helped them.

It certainly is a difficult decision, on one hand these statues depict figures or represent groups of malicious and immoral actions, however, they were erected as reminders of the war that ended slavery in the US. While I do believe the subject of the statues could have been chosen a little more sensitively, I cannot support cancel culture for it's irrational attack on historical statues ranging from founding fathers, presidents such as Lincoln and Shaw's brigade of the first African American brigade to see combat. This group has defaced monuments that promote movements they claim to support and shows that they either have no knowledge or application for history.

I 100% agree but I draw the totally opposite conclusion.

If you want to read the horrors of this treasonous, racist, slaver movement, pick up a history book. What they did is a stain on our nation’s history that is never going away.

But we don’t have to honor it.

Exactly

Probably expose them for being racist of removing icons like Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben from the world And getting Cleveland a new voice actor that black.

This year, we’ve seen conservatives boycott (or threaten to boycott) Goodyear and the NFL for doing things they didn’t like politically, and we’ve seen them “buycott” Goya for doing something they like politically. Those are just examples off the top of my head.

Can anyone riddle me how this isn’t just a right-wing version of “cancel culture”?

Umm, I'm a conservative, but I am the one that made this meme. A boycott is not necessarily cancel culture

lol, boycotts are a staple of cancel culture.

Yeah, "boycotts are just different" is an argument I've heard before

Different how? It's fundamental.

The essence of cancel culture is using social media and/or commerce to express political disagreement.

But with how it is now, an individual will be completely cut out of the public view if they disagree with anything the masses believe.

[the meme is an exaggeration; I don't think cancel culture is actually like this, but it's sure how conservatives seem to view it]

I would say cancelling is not just about "disagreement" per se; I think boycotts and other social media campaigns to punish people/companies tend to be reserved for serious issues. Off the top of my head: Harvey Weinstein (sexual assault/rape), C.K. Louis (sexual harassment), Kathy Griffin (holding Trump's severed head -- something conservatives and indeed a bunch of liberals too were not okay with).

Yeah, when celebrities cross the line, maybe they should be shamed and punished.

There was almost a movement to "cancel" Aziz Ansari over a kiss-and-tell story, and it made some people uncomfortable, but I think most people took a look at that account of a date gone wrong, basically, and decided there wasn't enough of a there there.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/1/17/16897440/aziz-ansari-allegations-babe-me-too

What we should ask is this: Is the underlying cause of the boycott/social media shaming campaign sound? That's what I think we should focus on.

The conservative outrage against Goodyear for having a politically-neutral anti-campaigning policy (basically), and against the NFL for (finally) speaking in favor of BLM, was tremendously misplaced in my view.

Yes, there is unnecessary "cancelling" (I can't think of a better word) on both sides. I don't support any of that. If you enjoy watching football, then by all means, go watch NFL. And yes, people who commit sexual abuse and harassment should be convicted, and society is fine without them. What I have a problem with is cases like JK Rowling. The world is super offended because she said there are 2 genders. In response, the whole left came after her and have tried to cut her out of society.

Funny meme, by the way

good talk

That is simply false.

Plenty of platforms carry unpopular opinions.

This another one of those things i support in some cases but not in others. There are things that should be rejected and people who shouldn't be listened to any more, but it has been taken too far in cases.

CancelCulture can suck God’s ass