look at the countries that have turned communist. they are ruined, there people are starving, there is no freedom, and the governments are flat evil. communism creates a classless, moneyless and stateless society.
What is your definition of socialism? Whats ur definition of communism?? Socialism isnt just when the government does stuff.....
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My definition of socialism is the normal definition. What else would it be?
Socialism is "a political and economic theory of social organisation which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
Ah glad we came to an understanding upon that! So how are the democrats that. They are capitalists too, just ones that are more progressive. The most leftist mainstream democratic candidate is Bernie, but hes hardly left of center.
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You would have to be really far-left to consider Bernie Sanders to be "hardly left of center".
Left is socialism and communism so objectively they are pretty centrist. Until Bernie is seizing the means of production hes still pretty centrist, as most places are now a days.
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You would have to be really far-left to consider Bernie Sanders to be "pretty centrist".
Objectively hes centrist. Like the policies he campaigns for are common place in places like say Europe. So objectively he is centrist doesnt matter my stance
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Bernie Sanders is not "centrist" at all. Also, I am from Europe myself, and I still consider his policies to be extreme.
I- what? Socialism is generally defined as workers owning means of production, usually under a state or via unions, whats urs?? Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society.