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1 up, 4y
He said he doesnt know who they are, but that they like him. That is all he needed to hear- praise.
2 ups, 4y,
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Many liberal Reps, Senators, Govs, and Mayors openly back BLM and Antifa that are not just 'linked' to violence, they are actively violent daily for all to see and have been for months. If you have a problem with Trump saying what he said, then you should certainly have a problem with those liberal politicians as well.
2 ups, 4y,
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BLM and rioting/looting are not intrinsically related. You can support BLM without supporting rioting/looting, like what most liberals do. According to your logic, I would be supporting enslavement by supporting the founding fathers because some of them owned slaves.
0 ups, 4y,
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By that definition, neither is Qanon, which would invalidate the meme's premise.
1 up, 4y,
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All qanon members intrinsically believe in wackass conspiracy theories.

Also, i’m not saying trump himself is a qanon member, but he legitimizes its conspiracy theories, which is bad.
0 ups, 4y,
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I will give you that they believe some crazy things, and Trump probably should have come out strongly against it, but that does not necessarily mean Qanon = violence, according to the definition above.

As an aside, BLM and Antifa are intrinsically violent. Their members show this on a daily basis. They make no effort to hide it and they do not deny it. One of BLM's founding members (Yusra Khogali) even said, "White people are sub-human and need to be wiped out". That sounds fairly intrinsically violent. Given that, the logic of Trump supporting Qanon being the same as Democratic leaders supporting BLM and Antifa does follow. It is not the same as supporting slavery by supporting the founding fathers, because the founding fathers did not use slavery as the basis for the Constitution or Declaration of Independence, while violence is at the core of BLM and Antifa given the statements made by it's founding members.
1 up, 4y,
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I never said qanon was intrinsically violent. What I did say is that qanon is intrinsically conspiratorial, because in order to be a qanon member, you have to believe in wackass conspiracy theories.

BLM and Antifa are not intrinsically violent. According to research from June (also the month where the protests were most violent), 80% of the protests were peaceful. You can condemn the protests which descend into violence without condemning BLM as a broader concept.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/10/george-floyd-black-lives-matter-police-protests-widespread-peaceful/5325737002/

That BLM founder was not a founder of all of BLM, but a cofounder of a chapter of BLM In Toronto. Yes, she's a racist piece of shit. That doesn't mean all of BLM is.
0 ups, 4y,
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Ok, I can chalk it up to not seeing the concept behind your meaning in the meme with Qanon, but we will just have to agree to disagree on Antifa, and to a lesser extent, BLM.

From researching their collective manifestos, they seek to tear down the US system and replace it with some Marxist form of government...a task that can only be completed through revolution, and that is almost always violent. So to me, when I read that, it seems their very basis for existence is to create social and sometimes violent upheaval. But that's how I see it.

At any rate, I thank you for maintaining a civil debate. It is quite refreshing to debate someone without being called a f***tard multiple times...lol!
0 ups, 4y
I tend to keep it civil when my opponent is civil to me :) Anyway, we'll just have to agree to disagree with BLM. As for antifa, they're a mostly violent group, but not intrinsically violent because some are opposed to violence, but the general point I agree with.
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