anyone who thinks blm is about culling white people is lying plain and simple

If you have to say black or white before "lives matter" - you are just creating division of races. BLM is simply put, a racist and communist entity.

It may have not started as that, but this organization has been hijacked. BLM has nothing to do with black lives.

All I know is, don't say "All lives matter" else some crazy leftist will shoot you in the face just like they did to the white woman in Indiana.

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in this analogy, 'black lives matter' and 'i care about you' are specific addresses, not general, so while they arent laser accurate, which would require me to say 'black lives matter is like saying black lives matter', they are similar enough in concept that an honest person would understand and say 'oh yeah, i get it'

saying 'sarahs life matters' doesnt indicate any disbelief in the rest of the family's lives mattering, do conservatives really think you can only hold one belief at a time? for it to be the case that thats what i meant, i would have to add something to indicate that, otherwise my family would be interpreting what i said maliciously

when someone says 'black lives matter' youre obviously taking their statement at face value, either intentionally or through consuming so much propaganda your brain cant understand nuance

when you hear 'black lives matter' try not to think of some klansman saying that by itself, but in the broader context of black people being left out of the system for generations. it's not a rallying cry to exclude white people, it's a call to decisively include black people.

woww an anecdote holy cow my argument is in shambles! cue today where the average black household net wealth is a fraction of the average white household. seriously reconsider your worldview if you think slavery had no effect on african americans in society after it was removed.

the fact that individuals exist is not proof that the system actually works. if i spray a crowd with a machine gun and a few survive that doesnt mean the bullets are ineffective actually

the average net worth of a white family is $171,000. the average black family's net worth is $17,150. the net worth of the average single white woman is $42,600. the average single black woman's is $5. how is this nonsense, and please enlighten me on the real reason. id be very interested on your thoughts that are completely unrelated to the past 400 years of slavery and discrimination.

is it not a gish gallop because this isnt a live debate? thats the only distinction i can really gather.
i also disagree with your very good faith characterization of me screaming whenever you say anything, it seems to me that you dont like to deal with a person's arguments before youve mischaracterized/dehumanized your opponent slightly...

if i quoted your points in their entirety i wont have enough characters to actually respond lol

are you trying to slippery slope my very argument? at which point did i say that blacks are still enslaved? telling me to 'think critically', when i already have and come to the correct conclusion, isnt gonna make me realize some big truth or whatever

do you think blacks werent enslaved and discriminated against for 400 years? how is slavery 'debunked'?

13. 'You don't explain how factors such as...'
because a lot of those environmental factors can be explained by slavery. 'culture' culture comes from the environment, what was the black man's environment for 400 years? 'education' poor education associates with poverty, what major event caused most if not all black people to end up with no money or property, forcing them to accept low income housing, which the taxes funds the schools of? 'personal responsibility' doesnt work as well if, for your entire life, youre surrounded by crime and gangs and poverty, with nothing to do except have sex and do drugs.

14. 'My great-great-great-great-grandparents were slaves'
there are people alive today whose parents were slaves. 150 years is no time at all.

15. 'Nevermind that his grades and SATs weren't anywhere near where they needed to be, even WITH Affirmative Action helping him. That's irrelevant'
not how affirmative action works btw, incredible straw man.

16. '"My great-great-great-great-grandparents were slaves. That's why my business selling custom earmuffs for cats failed! All those racists didn't want to buy my stuff because I'm a black man/woman!!" (Nevermind that earmuffs for cats is a dumb idea'
'twitter is 90% imagining a guy, tricking themselves into believing that guy exists and getting mad about it' - toiletgun

17. 'you cripple people when you encourage them to believe bullshit like that'
i think providing solutions to peoples problems is good actually :)

alright i read your book. ill go point by point, as that is the only way to address a gish gallop

1. 'what data is that?'
well, for starters, we could look at the findings of the us government bureau of justice statistics, that one study that looked at 100 million police stops across the country, finding a bias against black people that disappears at night, which is real interesting, the fact that generational poverty is a thing paired with the fact that slaves were let free with nothing to get started with, and numerous other studies that would take too much time to mention, yeah, i think im pretty covered as far as data's concerned.

2. 'youre drawing a line between slavery and inequalities today! what a leap!'
yeah, and it's a leap thats supported by facts and history, because it's a perfectly logical conclusion. of course things happened in between then and now that leads to our world today, i never said there werent. one good example is the homestead act, where the us government gave free land to white people and not black people, who had been freed by that point.

3. 'you werent factoring in affirmative action and the white-black ratio, thats why theres the disparity'
let's assume that affirmative action works, why would 3 generations of it clear the 400 years of conditioning that people have gone through to subconsciously view darker skin as worse? theres data on this, even black people have these biases. and for your white-black ratio hypothesis to be correct, the per-capita basis would be even. it's not. the percentage of white people under the poverty line is 11.8% while the percentage of blacks under the poverty line is 20.8%. if you want an accurate read on the world you have to take into account both the raw numbers and the even statistics.

3.5. '"But that makes the point! There aren't more millionaire blacks to absorb the extremes! See? 400 years of slavery and discrimination!!" No. You still haven't demonstrated any link demonstrating that the reason there's a "net wealth gap" is because of systemic, systematic (two different words, mind you) discrimination.'
i just thought this was funny cause you completely fabricated a response to yourself and then dismantled it, very owned

4. 'you need to prove causation'
there are numerous studies, as i have said, that have found very compelling evidence to there being a causative link between oppressing a group of people and not letting go of your biases , like that police stop study i mentioned.

5. 'first of all, i didnt call you stupid.'
first of all, research semantics, could be useful

6. 'youll just dismiss my opinion and forget'
this seems a little dogmatic, is dismissal and an attempt to dismantle the same thing to you?

7. '"Slavery is debunked"...? Who the hell said that?'
"you believe the thoroughly debunked and discredited "1619 Project" bullshit "400 years of slavery and discrimination" propaganda?" - you, not differentiating what 'bullshit' and 'debunked' are referring to...just the 1619 project? then why mention the slavery in the same sentence? not saying you intended that meaning but-

8. 'okay, and?'
we should do something about it. slavery isnt nebulous, and its effects are empirical. not sure what you need help understanding.

9. 'Trying to "correct" historical injustices is a fool's errand'
is this a concession on the debacle of whether slavery had an effect on black wealth? why didnt you just say 'yes. that is the cause, and we shouldnt do anything about it.'?

10. 'none of us were alive back then'
and? do you think reparations is when you take $2,000 from white people and give it to black people? that doesnt fix anything. why would anyone do that?

11. 'all such attempts...as the Nazis themselves justified their destruction of the Jews...always ends in absolutely horrific nightmares of death and widespread destruction'
wdym? i dont understand what this has to do with anything.

12. 'World War 2, with perhaps 100 MILLION people dead, was a direct result of the Treaty of Versailles, and British, French, and American desires for revenge against Germany for World War 1'
small nitpick here; the us didnt want to avenge their losses by punishing germany, that was just the british and french who had been in the war since the beginning.

no, i believe the plurality of data. that is what i believe. it feels ironic for someone who rejects empiricism as fake news msm lies to call me stupid, blind, and ridiculous.

youve been dancing around this reason for the net worth gap for so long now. why dont you tell me your hypothesis? calling me lazy for not knowing your opinion isnt going to make me change mine.

are you saying that slavery is debunked because it ended in 1865? that doesnt mean it never happened and didnt have consequences that can be felt today.

all imma say is 'think critically' cause if you thought i was gonna read all that malding you were sorely mistaken, i aint gonna f**k wit da gish gallop

Maybe people get this "BLM means killing white people" because of things like this:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/blm-leader-says-whites-sub-human-should-be-wiped-joseph-curl

But make up your own mind.

the honest reporting of the daily wire, finally, a convincing argument

im sure that person is real, but i dont see their views getting supported by the larger movement. you want me to judge all conservatives by one bad apple who wants to gas the jews?

you might want to google this term; it's called an 'anecdote'. avoiding them will make your arguments more clear-headed and less deranged

conservatism is when you get convinced by google images and an out of context headline

you just recited the declaration of independence, largely inspired by john locke, known as the father of liberalism. what is your point? i forgot to mention that conservatives are also historically illiterate.

thanks

i know the differences between classical liberalism and leftism, but do you know the difference between classical liberalism and conservatism?

It's a little stronger than simple 'anecdotal' evidence, because of who she is. She is a FOUNDING MEMBER of BLM. Therefore, her beliefs are at the core of the movement. (You know, like BLM saying that America is a systemically racist nation since several of it's founders were slave owners.)

Also, you said 1 person, so then I found several more examples in about 30 seconds on Google. If you need more than what I was able to find in a cursory search (meaning there were plenty more examples, but I just didn't feel like downloading them all), then I'm not sure there would be any convincing you no matter how much data you were presented with. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

Incidentally, you may want to Google 'capital letters' and 'punctuation'. It might make your responses seem more intelligent, and less like an emotional diatribe.

looking into the actual context of the tweet rather than two-brain-celling it shows that it was an act of frustration rather than actual intent, people have been saying 'imma kill my boss' and 'i wanna smack that lil bitch boy so bad' for millennia and it isnt going to stop anytime soon.

you didnt look up anecdote, clearly, because 'many google images' is still anecdotal. you'll have to find a concrete study that shows the majority of blm protesters are violent criminals for me to take you seriously on this.

also youll have to look up who gives a damn about capitalization because i didnt see anyone here asking

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Yep, just a one off.

True, the only honest reporting is CNN... LOOOOOOOL

did i say that?

Didn't have to - your statements, arguments, and meme said it for you.

but...i dont think cnn is the only honest reporting or is even entirely honest...so youre just wrong

Whatever you say, boss.