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Doctor Strangelove says... | IF YOU BELIEVE THE PEOPLE YOU ARE DEBATING TO BE EVIL
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True, evil doesn’t listen.
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Nor do the self-righteous.
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True, that explains the SJW and the TDS people perfectly.
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I would say anyone who is so rigidly politically defined can be characterized as such.
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Exactly. If you believe the people you are attacking to be inferior, you’re not debating them but appealing to mob mentality to eventually annihilate them.
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You're right but what about the people who saw early on that Dolf was going to lead Germany into the depths of hell. Let's assume they debated a nazi who believed Hitler's claims about the jews and white supremacy. A nazi who would follow every instruction to the letter. Is that a debate or not?
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It is much easier to label a person or a group of people evil after they’ve committed atrocities. It is, however, missing my point that it was the Nazis who labeled their opponents evil.
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Yes I know this but some Germans saw the threath of Hitler early on. Is it then a debate if a "woke German" argued with a hardcore nazi?
Just looking at your claim from that stand point...
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Only if he lived to see another day.
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I mean prior to 1933 and not surrounded by 10 brown shirts
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Then yes. There has to be a mutual respect for a debate to occur. You cannot change people’s mind if you’re unreasonable and likewise cannot change the minds of the unreasonable. It doesn’t mean that reasonable people shouldn’t try. That would be unreasonable.
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Also is it true you have German ancestors?
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I am German-American but I fail to see how that is relevant.
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Well I was wondering if you believe Trump is this inevitable person like Hitler was. Looking at Hitler's life it is almost if there was this force field around him that protected him. He could've died from poverty when he was a homeless man, he could've gotten killed in ww1, he could've gotten assassinated when he became a public figure many times but always dodged it.

My view of Hitler is that he was the figure that Europe called upon after centuries of internal wars, genocides overseas and anti-semitic genocides.
Hitler claimed he would defend european culture, save white europeans and Europe in general.
He achieved the complete opposite with nearly 40 million europeans dead, well over 90% white and half the continent in ruins.

When I look at Donald Trump's life it's almost the same. He should've been bankrupt and poor a long time ago or in jail for tax fraud. He should've been rejected by the GOP for being totally incompetent and ignorant. But it just keeps on going as if there is something that America needs to learn about itself just like Hitler learned europe an important lesson.

Personally I believe if Trump gets re-elected the beast will be released. We're already seeing secret police in streets of Portland.
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I’ve drawn comparisons between the two before. Some more serious than others. Initially, I was of the opinion that people are often too quick to draw comparisons to Hitler with Presidents. Those sentiments have been increasing over time no matter which party and I objected to it with Obama and with Bush.

I find his rallies to be particularly disturbing and his rhetoric to be eerily similar to Hitlers and his supporters. More so than previous Presidents. It became harder for me to stand by that argument that those parallels were mere exaggerations. His willingness to suspend due process to take away guns was the first real red flag that I think should’ve been enough to turn his base against him.

I am, of course, disturbed that protestors are being pulled off streets in unmarked cars and find there are people who are entirely too comfortable with what happened in Portland. I suspect it’s been happening a lot longer and more often than what people have reported. It is just we’re hearing about it now.

I am far more disturbed by the majority of the Republican Party as it is now than Trump. I think he is more akin to a scapegoat while they continue to undermine American civil liberties and social institutions.

That said, I maintain the warning that if you believe your opponents evil, then you are not being reasonable either. That it is entirely possible that Trump and his supporters could create the very monster you fear him to be as well.

In fact, many criticisms of Trump were the very same as those levied at Obama. And I firmly believe that Trump is a direct response to that. The wrong response.

I don’t want to see the Democrats make that mistake either.
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His niece Mary is also deeply troubled by the fact that there are so many Trump enablers.

However I do believe Trump is evil. Not in the way like he's hiding his horns and pointy tail but someone with no empathy for others. This has been stated by republican journalist Richard Johnston, Michael Moore and now his own niece.

Perhaps we need to ask ourselves: can you have a normal debate with a sociopathic/ psychopathic personality? Such a person will never change their mind unless it benefits them.
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I’m not debating with Trump tho.
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Can you recommend some books? So far I've read the Hitler bio by Fest, the meaning of Hitler by Haffner and watched a series by Guido Knopp.
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I don’t really have one off the top of my head. I would not describe myself an expert despite my experiences. I was quite young at the time so of course my perspective is biased by my family.

Honestly, the first book I remember reading on the subject of Nazi Germany was one of Haffner’s but I’m not sure which it was. So, I suppose I’d recommend his other works.

I have a few books I would not recommend as I personally found them to be at best sympathetic to Hitler, and at worst, even supportive. The notorious book by Kubizek, The Young Hitler I Knew is, at the very least, an interesting read though I believe it is more a nostalgic and overly romanticized account of what Hitler had been like. If not watered down propaganda fluff. A more romanticized and fictional account would be Gerber’s The Life of Adolf Hitler which reads more like a novel than a biography.
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Seen the latest cover of Der Spiegel?
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Ok thx. Nice talking to ya
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How do you see it?
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