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Responsible Republican leadership? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Responsible Republican leadership? Pepperidge Farms remembers. | image tagged in republicans,covid-19,donald trump is an idiot,ronald reagan,john mccain,mitt romney | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
3,235 views 6 upvotes Made by Slobama 4 years ago in politics
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Nice!
Now do one how 'past democrats would handle racial unrest and BLM'.
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Already got u fam

Did this one awhile ago

Interesting stuff man
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By a Republican majority. Johnson voted against it when he was a Senator, but had to sign it into law for Political reasons.
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MLK quote on riots (full) | image tagged in mlk quote on riots full | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
"Political reasons."

Ah

You mean the riots I mentioned above: which LBJ chose to listen to rather than dismiss out of hand, demonize, and tear gas, etc.?

Makes sense

A time when both Republicans and Democrats recognized that a riot is the language of the unheard

It existed
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No LBJ was a bigoted racist, that hated blacks. had he not signed it he would have proved it to the world.

The left only wants to give him credit because he is one of them.
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Fact Check: ‘More Republicans Voted for the Civil Rights Act as a Percentage Than Democrats Did’

https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/17/fact-check-more-republicans-voted-for-the-civil-rights-act-as-a-percentage-than-democrats-did/
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Civil Rights Acts of the '60s enjoyed bipartisan support and bipartisan opposition. It was a more racist but less partisan era. | image tagged in civil rights,1960's,1960s,racial harmony,racism,progress | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
And bipartisan opposition. What a different world it was!

Anywho

I find it remarkable that all conservative responses to this meme thus far have insisted on deflecting the focus to Republican attitudes that predate any of the Republican meme subjects by at least 12 years, and up to about 100 years or more prior to today

Fascinating

And today's meme isn't even about race whatsoever, but rather the covid crisis ravaging our country

Beyond science

Anyone here up for engaging with the meme on its own terms?
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As a PERCENTAGE. But not as a majority of votes, which would be the Democrats.
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You didn't go back enough.
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Yes: those who have studied American history know that the parties have since undergone a switch on race issues, starting in a big way with LBJ's Administration and the Civil Rights Acts I've referenced above

That was 50 years ago

And now?
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That must have been some f**king switch mate!
I went to bed hating n***os, and woke up loving them...un-f**king-believable!
LOL Brainwashed.
Imagine democrats and republicans today getting together to switch their positions.
Hey, starting tomorrow, you republicans start pushing for socialism, while we democrats will do anything to protect the constitution. Okay?
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It was a bit more gradual than that: But 50 years later, the shift is unmistakable.
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Gradual? lol So there must have been a point in the middle of this switch somewhere where two parties were equally balanced.

50 years on, unmistakable indeed. Keep 'em on the leash. The graph below shows black kids growing up without a father figure.
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Not a single word about race in the OP meme

And yet: that is where all the conservative responses to this have instantly gone

This thread is beyond science
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yawn
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Lyndon Johnson opposed every civil rights proposal considered in his first 20 years as lawmaker.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/apr/14/barack-obama/lyndon-johnson-opposed-every-civil-rights-proposal/
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Indeed: LBJ evolved significantly on race issues during his lifetime.

Kind of like Lincoln!

A reflection of the overwhelming racism of the societies they grew up in.

Despite prior attitudes, they still rank as the two most important Presidents to have ever fought racism in this country's history.

Unless you'd like to nominate someone else?
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Not according to the behind the scenes recordings of him calling blacks n******.
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Fabulous results! Looks like the African-American community is winning!
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3 dead republicans, at least 2 rinos and Trump is why no one is talking about the body of meme. As it's fantasy and speculation about how they would have handled things.
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The meme is based on how these past Republicans spoke on a day-to-day basis, the themes they campaigned on, and (if they served as President) how they actually addressed crises that arose during their tenure in office.

In Trump's case, we have a direct quote because as he was President at the time.

All of this underscores how Trump's egomaniacal narcissism has led the Republican Party in a radically different direction -- away from themes of personal responsibility, international leadership, genuine patriotism, sacrifice, family values, shared purpose, and common sense.

In my opinion!
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Hey so defensive, hahaha. I understand it's opinion. But even if informed by historical understanding it's still speculative because it's opinion. I'm not attacking just informing with opinion on why maybe they didn't respond as you hoped they would. They don't agree with assesment.
It would seem it is a time when both parties move further away from what many had held as belief on where they stood on matters.
How's your new balance on here working out for you?
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Yeah, I didn't mean to jump all over you - but a multipanel meme like this takes considerable time and thought. To have the discussion derailed off-topic immediately like this and then have you defend it is disheartening, despite my already-low expectations for the "politics" stream.

This could have provided an opportunity to reflect on and discuss where the GOP has been over the past 30 years -- its core strengths (which caused me to vote McCain in my very first election in '08, in fact) vs. where it is now. The trajectory shows clearly the GOP is no longer the "Party of Reagan" despite how much he's been traditionally praised, again going back to that '08 election and even '12.

I understand this runs counter to the way many Trump followers these days are accustomed of thinking, but that's kind of the point.

New balance is going well. I mean: I still meme a fair amount, but I'm not getting quite as sucked in, avoiding streams I have minimal interest in, debating politics less than I used to but still probably more than most lol.
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Yeah I hear you and can relate on your effort input and how expectation as to desired responses did not equate and in this case have in fact been diverted from the theme of the meme. I have done many a meme in the past that put forth ideas which only a few would take the challenge of answering.
One in particular I spent days on was as to why we should consider dropping the left right paradigm of politics and define peoples political beliefs on where they sit on a scale between maximum absolute freedom and sovereignity of the individual and its opposite. So this would introduce the ability for someone to hold certain beliefs on some subjects which althogh easily reconcilable into left or right they may not reflect an individuals true feeling on the matter. For example, say abortion and it's many shades of acceptability to unacceptability. This method of determining political belief would more accurately reflects any individuals beliefs and principles towards any subject of political discourse. And then we can do away with the notion of, or concept of parties. An individual having to have the alignment with parties can be excluded as an aspect for electing a candidate and all candidates are independents.
The politician only serves to act in the interests and good will of those who elected them with the guiding for voting being they reflect the wishes of those who voted for them based on their positions espoused at election time. Candidate must achieve a majority vote with the highest tallied vote getter being the candidate. If the electors find the candidate is not acting in the interests of the majority the electors they can petition for a re-election. Otherwise you retain set terms for re-election and no term limits. Afterall if they don't perform the electors can recall them and see if someone else can take control so term limits are there if they don't perform.

An interesting observation I have on here is that the people most derided by other users are the only ones who seem to have any interest in responding too in depth memes such as this. (although I note one such person is not commenting on this meme but that's maybe something they're choosing to do because of their previous disagreements with you). To answer or offer opinion requires the average user to need to expend more time than they care to put into thinking about their response especially when they don't see the subject as a current event even if it is. Not on the news then it's not on t
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the mind.

Sorry to go on rambling a bit there (I ran out of space as you can see).

"New balance is going well. I mean: I still meme a fair amount, but I'm not getting quite as sucked in, avoiding streams I have minimal interest in, debating politics less than I used to but still probably more than most lol."

Yes i see you still on and thought I observed you realising you had filled a few vase's to their max levels. It's good practice observing when to walk and probably making less hassle in the home. Good to hear.
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