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rebel flag | IF YOU WERE UPSET WHEN THE GOVERNMENT THREATENED YOUR LIVELIHOOD WITH A MANDATED ECONOMIC SHUTDOWN; PERHAPS YOU CAN EMPATHIZE WITH THOSE NON-SLAVEHOLDING SOUTHERN MEN WHO FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY | image tagged in rebel flag | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Do I sympathize with Confederate soldiers who didn't own slaves? To an extent. They were victims of propaganda, after all. | I only sympathize with non-slaveowning Confederate soldiers to the extent they were brainwashed victims of propaganda. I have an ancestor bu | image tagged in the most interesting man in the world,confederate,confederacy,civil war,propaganda,treason | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
The Civil War divided families right down the middle. There were Southerners who remained loyal to the Union.

I like the ones who weren't traitors.
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As there was nothing in the Constitution to stop them from seceding, how were they traitors? Just saying, not supporting
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What made the Confederacy traitorous? They seceded without first seeking a diplomatic consensus or a Constitutional convention. | image tagged in traitor,traitors,treason,constitutional convention,us constitution,confederacy | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Nothing in the Constitution prohibited secession; nothing in the Constitution *authorized* secession, either.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States#Dubious_legality_of_unilateral_secession

To this day, the Constitution is silent upon that question. But in formal terms, the 13 colonies and every state that joined thereafter gave up their absolute sovereignty by ratifying the Constitution in order to enter the Union and the federal structure it entails.

And in practical terms, the Civil War settled the question of secession. At least, in the unilateral manner the Confederacy pursued secession in and under the particular circumstances of the time.

If ever in the future an American state or group of states were to decide to go its own way, the movement for secession would be better served trying to seek a diplomatic consensus from the remaining states for a peaceful split.

It stands to reason there would need to be a Constitutional convention to authorize the proposed secession, since no procedure for secession currently exists. Secession cannot currently be authorized by the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch, the Judicial Branch, or even all three branches acting together.

So: A tough order, but a Constitutional convention would be one way to leave the Union without being traitorous.
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Guess they should have checked Wikipedia first
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The Constitution and those who had read it existed at the time as well.
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Roll Safe Think About It Meme | The feds didn’t shut anything down. The South said “not my President”, formed their own CHOP, and started a war at Ft. Sumpter. | image tagged in memes,roll safe think about it | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Highest desertion rate in all of US military history. Apparently even they weren't into it.
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IF YOU WERE UPSET WHEN THE GOVERNMENT THREATENED YOUR LIVELIHOOD WITH A MANDATED ECONOMIC SHUTDOWN; PERHAPS YOU CAN EMPATHIZE WITH THOSE NON-SLAVEHOLDING SOUTHERN MEN WHO FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY